Is it just me, or do a lot of career-oriented women have some kind of chip on their shoulder?

You are correct.

You are correct -- it is just you.

Noticing patterns wrote:

I'm 29 and have been looking at women more and more in terms of long-term partnership, and something I've noticed is that most "career-oriented" women tend to have some kind of chip on their shoulder that makes them unpleasant a lot of the time. I'm pretty career-oriented myself and would ideally like a woman who was smart and driven also, but a lot of the women around my age or a little older I've gone out with who are indeed successful tend to have some rather significant character/personality flaws that make being married to them seem like not a great idea. I'm not really sure what the deal is, but it's like they're out to prove something and are often kind of condescending and even downright nasty.

Is this just me?

I'm a stay-at-home dad and happily married to a very successful doctor. I can't confirm your particular experience with career-oriented women. My wife is the kindest person I've ever known and supports me in every way she can. Unlike most men at my age, I've tons of time for my various hobbies (after finishing the daily chores and cooking, which takes me just about 3 hours). I have to add though, that looks-wise I'm much more than what my wife could reasonably expect (she's rather heavy and not carrying her weight well), so this might be one reason why she's so good-natured towards me.

So yes, maybe the issue is just within yourself.

They really don't have a choice. They're up against a lot- expectations are higher. It's tougher for a woman to make it in business and they have to develop a tough demeanor- it's sad.

It's really much simpler for men -- we can have a chip on our shoulder whether we are career-oriented or not. Being a dumba** for no reason at all is always an option.

Its bc it’s unnatural for them work in the manner they work

40 hours

40 hours yelling and cussing at men

40 hours of back stabbing but not all women bavk stab

They are depressed by not caring themselves for their kids

They are angry that they were tricked into working

But the have pride

Pride comes before a fall

They cant admit they were wrong

They fall

Their kids fall

runn wrote:

They really don't have a choice. They're up against a lot- expectations are higher. It's tougher for a woman to make it in business and they have to develop a tough demeanor- it's sad.

Wow, did I just wake up in the 1970s?

I think gender has little to do with it. Over the past 2 or 3 decades attributes like decency, kindness, respect, civility, courtesy, compassion, and honesty have been in steady decline.

I don’t think you have to worry about being married to them.

As I get older, the more I learn about women, the more I understand the disservice that feminism has granted them.

My concerns always sit at the margins, the otherwise hopefully-mother/wife driven into a dead end career by a SJW professor she met in college.

There will be a reconciling.

Damn you’re married to a fatty boom ba latty? Sounds like you settled for the money and she settled for the looks.

Gvhhgvhvghgvh wrote:

runn wrote:

They really don't have a choice. They're up against a lot- expectations are higher. It's tougher for a woman to make it in business and they have to develop a tough demeanor- it's sad.

Wow, did I just wake up in the 1970s?

Kind of. The old white men that run the Fortune 500 companies of the world have 1970s values. Until those sexist old men retire, women have an uphill battle trying to get ahead in the working world. They have to operate with a chip on their shoulder, some attitude. It's a PITA being a woman in that kind of environment. It's exhausting.

Fortunately, millennials have a better grasp that a woman, in fact, does not have a smaller brain than a man and menstruate if they get too stressed. They have the common sense that regardless of sex, everyone can do the same job.

You are an oblivious if you think this isn't the case.

Noticing patterns wrote:

I'm 29 and have been looking at women more and more in terms of long-term partnership, and something I've noticed is that most "career-oriented" women tend to have some kind of chip on their shoulder that makes them unpleasant a lot of the time. I'm pretty career-oriented myself and would ideally like a woman who was smart and driven also, but a lot of the women around my age or a little older I've gone out with who are indeed successful tend to have some rather significant character/personality flaws that make being married to them seem like not a great idea. I'm not really sure what the deal is, but it's like they're out to prove something and are often kind of condescending and even downright nasty.

Is this just me?

Yeah, it's you. Your issue is one of these:

* You really do NOT like smart, driven women and would rather date/marry a submissive woman.

* YOU are the one who is condescending and the women on the date with you don't like that and react negatively.

* You have just been extremely unlucky in that all women you date are condescending and nasty.

Since the last option is very unlikely, it is probably one of the first two. Only you can know for sure which one it is...I suppose it could be a little of both of them, but one is likely the dominant factor.

Jefferson D'Arcy wrote:

I'm a stay-at-home dad and happily married to a very successful doctor. I can't confirm your particular experience with career-oriented women. My wife is the kindest person I've ever known and supports me in every way she can. Unlike most men at my age, I've tons of time for my various hobbies (after finishing the daily chores and cooking, which takes me just about 3 hours). I have to add though, that looks-wise I'm much more than what my wife could reasonably expect (she's rather heavy and not carrying her weight well), so this might be one reason why she's so good-natured towards me.

So yes, maybe the issue is just within yourself.

Your wife is nice to you so you don't find out about the big black dick she's getting at work.

Women are smarter as we all know. Principle #1. Their brains may weigh less on the average - an artifact of their overall smaller stature - but they operate more efficiently and powerfully than males do. That's because they don't need to dedicate 75 percent of their cortex to handling the FRIENDZONE dilemma like you guys do.

Overall it's tough for everyone. So if women are struggling with these dilemmas, just imagine how bad they would be for you with your more limited cognitive capacity.

That's their bra strap.

Yes, many try too hard to be what they think is “tough”.

Used to be Rono wrote:

I think gender has little to do with it. Over the past 2 or 3 decades attributes like decency, kindness, respect, civility, courtesy, compassion, and honesty

have been in steady decline.

It coencides with the devaluation of women and the traditional work they do at home, the nurturing and training of decent human beings that have values beyond the selfish and empty pursuits of money and prestige.

I think gender has little to do with it. Over the past 2 or 3 decades attributes like decency, kindness, respect, civility, courtesy, compassion, and honesty have been in steady decline.

This is definitely the case. Men and women that are scrambling to climb the ladder or prove themselves at work can be a real pain in the Keister. "Usually" they get things done so they are not a bad teammate if you can put up with being thrown under the bus to make them look better once in a while. LTR material maybe but don't work with them also.