I say it's either Komen's 7:58 outdoors, or 7:24 indoor effort.
I say it's either Komen's 7:58 outdoors, or 7:24 indoor effort.
the 7:24 is pretty amazing, but i also think Kipketers 1:42 800 is sick.
Radikal Rad wrote:
I say it\'s either Komen\'s 7:58 outdoors, or 7:24 indoor effort.
Although I am a distance athlete, I would say that MJ's 19.32 200m is the greatest record. Komen's 3000m record would be second.
I'm a distance fan and think that many of the world records between 3,000 and 10,000 meters may take years to beat. However, I sat in the stands at the 96 Olympics and watched Michael Johnson make up the stagger half-way through the turn on the athlete beside him in the Olympic final of the 200 on his way to 19.32....That was Beamonesque....
MJ's 200m and Edwards' TJ, then Korzeniowski's 50km & Khannouchi's Marathon.
vc800 wrote:
Although I am a distance athlete, I would say that MJ's 19.32 200m is the greatest record. Komen's 3000m record would be second.
As much as it irks me to give the nod to a mere sprinter, I confess that I'm inclined to agree.
I'd have to say 12:39 is more impressive than a 7:58 2mile.
2x 3:59 is good but 3x 4:01 + 200 meters is much better. It is almost the same pace. If the 2mile were contested more often it would be closer to 7:52 and that would be impressive.
not to be picky but the WR-5000 IS NOT 4:01 pace more like 4:04.9+ pace. So what is more impressive 7:20.67(= 7:51+ 2 mile), 12:39.36 or 26:22.75? I have to go with the WR-10k as much better.
Would have to say Flojo's WR.
It's untouchable till now. And not even close to it.
1. FloJo- 10.49 100m
2. M. Johnson- 19.32 200m
3. Edwin Moses- +100 straight victories in 400H
4. Wang Junxia's- 29:31.78 10000m
5. Geb's 26:22 10k, Paula's 2:17 marathon, & Khalid's 2:05 Marathon
Honestly all the World Records are incredible, yet to me the above performances/world records stand out!
"You have nothing to lose in trying to win"--???
All of them full of dope, but who cares, right?
Isn't the women's 1500m world record 3:50? I think it was by a chinese athlete at a time when their performances were very suspicious. But anyhow, that, along with the 19.32 are the best.
It was off the hook! 19.32 rules!!!
Actually none of them are impressive. We are nowhere near our limits. Considering the fact that our training is based on faulty conclusions based on inadequate models of exercise physiololgy it is a wonder we have done as well as we have up to now. The real advances will come when knowledge of how to overcome the built in 'governor' that we have. This governor( most likely brain located)responds to feedback from receptors that monitor coronary oxygen supply. As the working muscles procur for themselves more and more oxygen to continue at a certain pace the receptors sense the falling oxygen content to the heart. This information then results in the brain recruiting less and less fibers to prevent myocardial ischemia which would result in cardio cellular death. That is why you fatigue, you are simply not recruiting enough fibers to continue at pace. Of course 'willpower' does help some but eventually the brain shuts the muscular recruitment down to protect the heart. At present it is estimated that the brain only allows about 40 %(EMG studies) of the available fibers to contract when running at whatever your pace for a distance is . At present time most distance training is based on overdistance training for 90% of the athletes times. Thus all this time the athlete trains to recruit less fibers than you will need during your race. Exactly the opposite of what should be done! This is done based on the theory to build up your base of capillaries, enzymes, hemoglobin, etc., all which have much less to do with your pace than the governor. I'm not saying you won't improve if you do the traditional training for the established reasons, just don't be blind to the fact that every generation considers themselves to have all the knowledge and that they are the ultimate that evolution has heretofore created. History shows they are usually wrong. This actually is not a new theory. The famous exercise physiologist, Hill, actually proposed the existence of the 'governor' in the 1920's.
The problem I foresee if someone is to overcome the 'governor' and recruit say 50-60% of the fibers they need, is that it could result in death if their heart is unable to escape permanent injury for the time period of the particular event. If one thinks about this people occasionally in remarkable circumstances do surpass the normal limitations of the governor. For instance people who lift an extraordinary amount of weight in a life or death situation or incredible endurance in a wartime situation(JFK-PT109). Trouble is they are quite often injured for life as their connective tissue is not prepared for the 'extra' effort. We can postulate that in these efforts the brain raised the governor to recruit more fibers as this was preferable to the alternative.
Thus I postualate even without drugs, EPO, genetic engineering, etc. such things as a 3:00 mile and 10:30 5K could be possible.
That Chinese Chick's record was drugs.
Vipam wrote:
1. FloJo- 10.49 100m
2. M. Johnson- 19.32 200m
3. Edwin Moses- +100 straight victories in 400H
4. Wang Junxia's- 29:31.78 10000m
5. Geb's 26:22 10k, Paula's 2:17 marathon, & Khalid's 2:05 Marathon
Honestly all the World Records are incredible, yet to me the above performances/world records stand out!
Yes right on. When we start to see more people passing out at the finish line or talking about the narrow tunnel that they saw near the end then you know they are tapping the 'governor' you know? Do you have experience with this or did you just read a book? Also drug use is going to be common place very soon.
19.32 too I would say, do you know why?
Here:
100m WR - 9.78
even 19.32 is still faster than 2 x 9.78
WOW!!!!
That's what I'm saying Sev! That is out of this world!
First off almost always the 200 world record has been faster then the 100 for one simple reason: at the 100 meter mark you are at full speed. Thus in a strange demented kind of way you might say they have a "running start" since the are not running 2 x 100 from a stand still.
All world records are crazy and I agree that those mentiond really stand out. I personally think if MJ wouldn't have been goofing off and talking to the crowd in some of his 400's he would have had the record long ago. I believe the guy was capable of running sub 43 sec.
Anyways, you guys know what the WR is for 10k indoors? Man running 50 laps is pretty amazing in itself...if you can keep form getting dizzy.
what? 10,000m indoor? you're kidding me?
now I ask you what is the 3000mSC indoor record?