Judy Pendergast transfers to Oregon

Bleu wrote:

Has to have failed out. No way you leave Harvard unless you ACADEMICALLY didn't belong there to start. Even if she was a running prodigy which she isn't nothing is as valuable in life as an Ivy League education.

Some Harvard Dropouts:

Robert Frost

Matt Damon

William Randolph Hearst

Bill Gates

Mark Zuckerberg

R. Buckminster Fuller

Gotta love the speculation with no evidence. I wish her success no matter where she attends UNDERGRAD.

Don't know about Judy, but

No academic or sports scholarship money from Ivy League. You never knew how rich and privileged you are at around $150,000 / year / GROSS household until you get socked with paying $50,000 NET of $60,000 / year sticker-price tuition + R&B for 4 years. The whole US News and World Report highest ranked / highest tuition mania is on borrowed time. How much will it really worth to possibly impress some corporate HR gatekeeper stooge?

Idyllic Naperville isn't to be confused with Rahm's murderous Chicago, and perhaps Boston... Philly, NYC, Providence and New Haven, too.

The Ivy League has less cachet in the Midwest than you may think. Many of the top of the class types are elated to go to U of I or many of the other "flagship" colleges in the region, especially Ann Arbor and Madison. Just plain folks, without the pretentiousness. A lot less of the "cut-throatism" in academic endeavors, too. Ivy League for many top-of-class Irish Catholics in the area is spelled Notre Dame, where one of Judy's long-time high school running rivals is now on the roster.

Winters in the Northeast may be worse (colder, snowier, longer, more depressing) than the Midwest, and Oregon a big improvement as compared to either. Many area high school parents are waving the kids south or west to college, and will be joining them soon in that area as they move from the financially collapsing states.

cleo2 wrote:

sdob wrote:

Looks like she has aged some since HS.

Trading Harvard for Oregon might be a first. She may have been asked to leave.

Good observation on the aging thing. It looks like the last 12 months added 10 years. Poor kid.

There is little doubt that she was asked to leave but they have no obligation to admit that.

I'm confused about the aging thing- I only see one picture of her in the thread? Did she get slower in college? I don't understand why she would be asked to leave just if she looks older???

Back to original question. Will Sarah Baxter be running XC this fall for U of O? She is still on the roster. Just have to wait and see, I guess. Answered my own question. Thanks, self!!!

Harvard is overrated, did Obama go there or Yale? Could google the answer, but it's not worth the effort.

MAGA

As another midwesterner, this is actually pretty accurate and reasonable. Particularly with regard to the relative prestige of the Ivy League around here. Of course some top-class kids aspire to them, but just as many would choose Northwestern, Notre Dame, U Chicago, or even top notch public schools over any Ivy League-in many cases, they're seen as a much better value. Stanford and comparable top notch non-Ivies outside the Midwest also draw their fair share of the top kids. And the persuasiveness of lower tuition and/or an actual athletic scholarship shouldn't be underestimated.

Yeah, I wouldn't want to go to an ivy either, I want to stay in Texas. I'm being recruited by some d1 and d2 schools here, so that's probably where I'll go. Especially since cheaper in state tuition.

I got recruited by the Patriots but why would I want to be Brady's receiver when I can play flag in the park?

I tell you what. Go poll the incoming class of Norte Dame and ask how many of them got into Harvard. You won't find very many. It takes more than being the top of your class to get into Harvard. True that places like U Chicago and Northwestern are comparable and in some ways preferable to an Ivy like Cornell or Brown. And Stanford certainly compares to Harvard. But let's not get carried away by pretending that Notre Dame is in the same league as Harvard. I know many kids that got into to Notre Dame. Smart kids, but not comparable to the ones who get into Harvard without dad's help.

"I got recruited by the Patriots but why would I want to be Brady's receiver when I can play flag in the park?"

I will be laughing about this comment all day!

Trump2020OP-the real one wrote:

Harvard is overrated, did Obama go there or Yale? Could [Google] the answer, but it's not worth the effort.

Barack Obama (whom I did not vote for) was an undergrad at Occidental, then at Columbia (the NYC Ivy).

He attended law school at Harvard. FYI the top-ranked law school in the U.S. is at Yale.

I do agree that Harvard is *somewhat* overrated. [They took my (white) sister-in-law, who didn't crack a 1400 on the SAT and was not accepted at Columbia or Penn or Stanford.] But it's still a very good school.

I don't understand going to Harvard if one's primary focus is on athletics.

Sure, with the right talent and circumstances, the Ivies can produce a national level athlete from time to time.

But if you are going to pay for Harvard, it really makes sense as a primary goal to get the most out of the resources the school has to offer. Revolving one's life around a non-revenue sport with almost no decent career prospects makes little sense. I hope her parents are not behind this, and this is something she truly wants to do on her own.

In this vein, I am confused over the transfer to Oregon. Unless there a specific academic program Oregon has which really meets this athlete's needs, I don't see the logic behind this move (and no, Oregon is not anywhere near a Michigan or Notre Dame in terms of academic offerings).

I went to a school similar to Harvard (close enough) and while there was a lot I did not like about it, including the difficulties encountered by virtue of being a poor person, there is little question that what went on within the four corners of the classroom (I took challenging courses my last two years) stick with me to this day, and in terms of career success and intellectual and skill development, the college years were considerably more influential to me than my graduate school years, notwithstanding the fact that the graduate school conferred a heavy dollop of credentials. Drawing every last molecule of academic rigor out of a place like Harvard does pay off.

KATIE RAINSBERGER 1942

https://xc.tfrrs.org/athletes/6002240.html

ALLI CASH 1943

https://www.tfrrs.org/athletes/4517366/Oregon/Alli_Cash.html

CARMELA CARDAMA BAEZ 2009

https://www.tfrrs.org/athletes/5472831/Florida_State/Carmela_Cardama_Baez.html

JESSICA HULL 2022

https://www.tfrrs.org/athletes/5510746/Oregon/Jessica_Hull.html

JUDY PENDERGAST 2038

https://www.tfrrs.org/athletes/6002746/Harvard/Judy_Pendergast.html

EMMA ABRAHAMSON 2027

https://www.tfrrs.org/athletes/5472048/Oregon/Emma_Abrahamson.html

SUSAN EJORE 1628

https://www.tfrrs.org/athletes/5512697/Monroe_College/Susan_Ejore.html

KATE MURPHY

http://www.goducks.com/roster.aspx?path=cross

Why? Legacy? She must have had something extraordinary.

Reasons why I would make move wrote:

Winters in the Northeast may be worse (colder, snowier, longer, more depressing) than the Midwest, and Oregon a big improvement as compared to either.

Naperville winters are worse than Boston winters.

It's an easy choice to pick Oregon weather over both though (and an even easier choice to pick Stanford's weather over Oregon's, so who knows...).

Keep in mind PWD was only recruiting kids to Harvard who had the intention of being pro after college and would take all the easiest classes possible. The guy was a horrible fit for Harvard and recruited runners who didn't fit the schools ethos. No surprise she's going to another school that puts "going pro" on a pedestal.

Her parents might be ok with saving $60K a year too.

I personally believe it to be in poor taste to wear clothing that dishonors the American Flag; such as shorts, bandanas, t-shirts, and the like. Show some respect, please!

And, back to the topic at hand. I'd rather run in Oregon than Massachusetts. Both are filled with lefty liberal commie pinkos, but at least Oregon has more trees you can hug.

MAGA

Haaaaavaaaaaad wrote:

"I got recruited by the Patriots but why would I want to be Brady's receiver when I can play flag in the park?"

I will be laughing about this comment all day!

Recruited by the Pats but have to (1) pay to play $75K/yr (2) for arena league bottom feeder

versus

getting paid to play for a Three time defending champion

Trump2020OP-the real one wrote:

I personally believe it to be in poor taste to wear clothing that dishonors the American Flag; such as shorts, bandanas, t-shirts, and the like. Show some respect, please!

And, back to the topic at hand. I'd rather run in Oregon than Massachusetts. Both are filled with lefty liberal commie pinkos, but at least Oregon has more trees you can hug.

MAGA

Your cover is blown! Trump supporters don't care about the environment. They are climate change deniers and so they wouldn't go around hugging trees.