Scam_Watcheroo do you have any of the Race Drone data? It's hard to assess the validity of the claims... it's not like Race Drone don't have a vested interest here.
Scam_Watcheroo do you have any of the Race Drone data? It's hard to assess the validity of the claims... it's not like Race Drone don't have a vested interest here.
lol
Please share the screenshots that show "tracker turned off"
I've seen screenshots that show last update of hours ago but that tells me the tracker is failing to connect to a network? How do we tell that it's powered down?
Need ice for that burn?
What exactly did you see with your own eyes? As I understand it no one has come forward to say "We went to find mimi running and couldn't find her"
Surely the only acceptable supporting evidence that is not directly linked to gps and heart rate data is witnesses? If your angle is that "it's on the internet so it can be fake look the script I ...haven't created.. " then having a second tracker that also updates to the internet is irrelevant?
I see. A conspiricy theorist. I guess the moon landings were faked also? And 911 was an inside job?
Really? Are the strava data and witness statements not available for the whole 40 hours? Does that include after the run - sleep time - or just during the run?
Where exactly was he thrown under the bus?
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Please share the screenshots that show "tracker turned off"
I've seen screenshots that show last update of hours ago but that tells me the tracker is failing to connect to a network? How do we tell that it's powered down?
If you scroll back through the thread you'll see them. Basically the trackers are color coded (there's a legend) and when it's black, it is turned off. They also had trackers on one of the cars and an RV. At one point, we could see Mimi's tracker turned off for hours (and see that it had 85% battery life when they shut it down) but the vehicles were still transmitting. It's not proof of anything though, so I don't know if it's worth it to you to go back and read all that.
I think Race Drone is legit. I was told they are used for a lot of ultras and they've been doing the Spartathlon happening right now. We don't have any proof one way or another. Scam_Watcheroo agrees with this -- he has said so. Everyone just has to make up his or her mind based on what we've seen. This isn't an obvious cheat like Rob Young.
Well I read what he posted. And I too have analysed data from Sir Edmund Percival "Ed" Hillary's ascent and have found it to be lacking. No - I won't share the data. Oh wait... here's the data... of course I haven't edited it.
My database indicates that you are waisting time not writing your magical script
lol
*wasting
Ah, I see - thanks for the pointer.
Considering the tracker was given as a convenience for members of the public to join in - it's a bit odd to base any accusations on that. But yes - Race Drone needs to offer up data so we can see what happened.
As I understand it for this to be a valid period of concern (apparently 40 hours?) we need to consider:
* Was anyone monitoring when this was?
* Was she running or sleeping? (what percentage?)
* Were the strava data and witness statement?
* Was the strava data uploaded and found to be sensible?
* Is the model of tracker good? I see they're using the "gold standard" now - which is not Race Drone - is that because the Race Drone ones are cheap and less reliable?
* My PC occasionally has a mind of it's own and reboots, freezes, etc. Could that have happened?
Why is the assumption one of malice when absolutely everything points to honourable conduct?
You see trackers behave craply during ultras. Even the famed Marathon des Sables has shitty tracking.
And we are going to have to form our opinions based either on the complaints of 10k runners and coders or a complete set of Strava data and the thoughts of people like Pete Kostelnick. That’s gonna be a really tough choice
Yes, why don't we base this on "thoughts". Idiot.
Yes - a very tough choice. Like that time I had to choose between youtube videos filmed in a basement explaining that the world is most definitely flat or 100's of years of evidence..
Compelling argument you have there. I hope your parents asked for their money back from your headmaster.
I'm getting tired of this thread
i can't stand the kind of "look at me" self promotion that "Marvellous" Mimi and her team engage in
I think the out and back FKT things she claims are stupid
The tracker stuff/ the guy who was either arrested or not is all shady as f@€k
But I'm not seeing a hole in the Strava data
Pete's opinion means something to me re: cred
Unless someone along the 1500 miles gets off their ass and goes to watch this stunt, the whole discussion is pointless cause we'll never know
St Marker wrote:
I'm getting tired of this thread
i can't stand the kind of "look at me" self promotion that "Marvellous" Mimi and her team engage in
I think the out and back FKT things she claims are stupid
The tracker stuff/ the guy who was either arrested or not is all shady as f@€k
But I'm not seeing a hole in the Strava data
Pete's opinion means something to me re: cred
Unless someone along the 1500 miles gets off their ass and goes to watch this stunt, the whole discussion is pointless cause we'll never know
+1
I agree with every one of those points.
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