So it looks like millennial males are 'opting out' of college, choosing not to waste time and (parents) money for it

MurderDubs wrote:

You're moving the goalposts. Flagpole was asked to name conservative universities, not "notable" conservative unis. If conservative universities can't make some top 100 list, that speaks to their quality relative to the quality of more politically liberal schools, not their existence. Reflect on the implications therein.

It's plum obvious that anyone can start there own home-brew uni, and do whatever with it they want (look at Ave Maria, from the Domino's pizza guy). As others noted, the main thing is whether government (i.e. taxpayers, you and me) supports it. And due to some notion that "universities are a Good Thing", they in general get money. But only those with the "right" ideas it seems. Quality is not the issue, it's whether you toe the line of Government Right Thinking (cf. Title IX). Which at least today makes it a leftist money pump. Until this sort of thinking (theft from the public purse is OK) becomes obsolete, the gravy train will go on. You can say "Who can blame them?" for taking the money, but then, not all of us have think/act so lowly.

In the wrong class? wrote:

I'm so sick of hearing this, "My class was a joke; all I had to do was repeat what the professor wanted, and I got an 'A' on all my papers."

This humble-bragging bullshit is just ridiculous.

If you study English, the impetuous is on you, the student, to draw your own conclusions on texts regardless of the professor's take.

Your inability to have "intellectual discourse" is a reflection of your over-inflated sense of self. What modern political discourse should exist in a classroom focused on literature?

Yes, I have an MA in English and no, I didn't expect my professors to babysit my intellectual development through the entire process. And, no, I don't go around thinking I'm better than everyone and outsmarted the system.

It isn't humble bragging. In fact, I would say it is the opposite, to state that writing a crappy paper that pleases a professor is an easy road to an undeserved "A". Plenty of professors reject proposals contrary to what they want to hear, and I don't really have the desire or the time to screw around trying to circumvent this issue.

Please explain how the "impetuous" is on me. I am paying for an education, and what I am receiving is an environment that does not accept dissenting opinions. I DO draw my own conclusions about texts, but I write about what I know will will earn a solid grade. It's the path of least resistance, and the my goal is receive decent grades and a piece of paper saying I have a degree.

Additionally, there is plenty of modern political discourse to be discussed along with almost any text, regardless of the time period in which it is written. I'm not sure how long it has been since you were in a classroom, but in my experience, a large portion of what is read is discussed in the context of modern society.

I'm also not sure where I said I wanted a babysitter; in fact, I would like the opposite. I would like to see more freedom in classrooms to discuss, and to write about, dissenting ideologies, and less micromanagement of students' learning. I think a well-supported argument, if on topic, should deserve high marks, but I have seen plenty of evidence contrary to this. Or maybe it is just my over-inflated sense of self that is the problem.

All just mind control wrote:

Taylor University

Olivet Nazarene University

Spring Arbor University

Trinity Christian College

Bob Jones University

Liberty University

...

It's called the free market. Right-wing unis abound, but no one takes them seriously. The real crime is that the left-wing unis *are* taken seriously.

People take them seriously. I know an MD who went to Taylor. Most people (and therefore most hiring managers) don't know if Hillsdale College is a Christian college or not unless the really investigate. Also, most don't know how different Ohio Wesleyan is from Indiana Wesleyan.

To MOST people in the US, if the college isn't a well-known one, then a degree is a degree.

luv2run wrote:

In the wrong class? wrote:

I'm so sick of hearing this, "My class was a joke; all I had to do was repeat what the professor wanted, and I got an 'A' on all my papers."

This humble-bragging bullshit is just ridiculous.

If you study English, the impetuous is on you, the student, to draw your own conclusions on texts regardless of the professor's take.

Your inability to have "intellectual discourse" is a reflection of your over-inflated sense of self. What modern political discourse should exist in a classroom focused on literature?

Yes, I have an MA in English and no, I didn't expect my professors to babysit my intellectual development through the entire process. And, no, I don't go around thinking I'm better than everyone and outsmarted the system.

English major? "Impetuous is on you". :)

You beat me to it but I could not resist the impetus to point and laugh too.

I think the word our Master of Arts seeks is "onus."

All just mind control wrote:

Northwestern College

Not to be confused with the University.

A four-year, liberal arts college affiliated with the Reformed Church in America.

Are any of your list NOT affiliated with a church??!

Most colleges in the US got their start from a church somewhere along the line. Many of those with church beginnings are now pretty much secular.

Again though, I was asked to name ONE college with a conservative bent...no other criteria was given. The point is that there are TONS of conservative colleges in this country.

Texas A&M is VERY conservative and has no religious affiliation.

University of Mississippi is VERY conservative and has no religious affiliation.

Utah State, same thing

Mississippi State, same thing

and on and on and on...

Texas A&M is VERY conservative and has no religious affiliation.

Administration and University Departments

The Texas A&M administration is much more liberal than you ever guessed or imagined. Many administrators use their position to advance their party-line liberal positions on issues such as taxation, socialism, perverse human sexuality, abortion, gun control, racism, amnesty, global warming, education policy, and bigger government in general. All too often they confuse their role as a public servant with “taxpayer funded activist.”

Texas A&M administrators have a track record of using student fee money, tuition, donations, and tax dollars to fund only liberal speakers on campus.

Before fall of 2012, conservative and Christian student organizations were not eligible for student organization funding through Student Activities. Fortunately, the Aggie Conservatives settled a lawsuit with the Texas A&M administration in November 2012 to correct this previous funding bias.

University of Mississippi is VERY conservative and has no religious affiliation.

Yes, I know, we can always claim backwards M-i-s-s-i-s-s-i-p-p-i is conservative! Everyone will believe that! Maybe even some experts like HuffPo claim it too!

Then we look under the hood...

Strike 2 wrote:

University of Mississippi is VERY conservative and has no religious affiliation.

Then we look under the hood...

Ole Miss almost became a sanctuary campus in the wake of Trump election, but the resolution was defested. Guess that's what Flag-pole considers "conservative"?

OK, I found it:

We are told that the Extended Sensitivity and Respect Committee has decided that the new Vice Chancellor for Diversity and Inclusion will work with the Institute for Racial Diversity and the new Center for Inclusion and Cross Cultural Engagement. Fellow compatriots, I am not making this up. This is not a satire, this is what the taxpayers of Mississippi are dishing out their hard-earned money to pay for.

Yeah, sounds real "conservative" in its admin there. And admin ultimately controls the tenor.

Runfastrunfar wrote:

Are they bad schools. Isn't US business interested in hiring their graduates?

Some of them are really bad schools, but as a whole, they aren't worse than any other non-elite college. People go on to graduate school and professional careers from those schools. Lots of people respect those schools.

Millennials: born 1981 - 1996

Generation Z: born 1997 - 2012ish

If you believe that colleges are just over run with liberal professors who warp the young minds of their students and that there aren't any places for a conservative student to go to college where they might feel more comfortable, then you would be one of those marionettes. Not a broad statement...depends on what you believe.

Son of the Confederacy wrote:

Ole Miss almost became a sanctuary campus in the wake of Trump election, but the resolution was defested. Guess that's what Flag-pole considers "conservative"?

Ole Miss also banned signing Dixie from its marching band last year, in another kowtow to social agitators (the flag I can more understand).

It's becoming like any other lib cesspool uni.

Utah State, same thing

Disagree. Essentially LDS.

“Religion runs this school, the Institute building is literally on campus right next to the student center — if that doesn’t show religious bias, nothing will.”

Strike 2 wrote:

University of Mississippi is VERY conservative and has no religious affiliation.

Yes, I know, we can always claim backwards M-i-s-s-i-s-s-i-p-p-i is conservative! Everyone will believe that! Maybe even some experts like HuffPo claim it too!

Then we look under the hood...

http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=7066

That is not indicative of not being conservative. Can Conservatives not understand that at a major university like that that many there are not Christians? Sorry, but it is still a very conservative university.

On the dole wrote:

Podunk U. wrote:

You clearly have no idea how Harvard is funded.

Oh look, it decreased a bit, was only $608 million in 2014 (and that's just for research).

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2015/1/22/federal-funding-decreases-2014/

Yep. Ivy League colleges get lots of federal funding. A lot of that though is for research that they have to apply for grants to get, and those grants are given if the research is bearing fruit. Tax payer dollars SHOULD be going to great research universities. This is how we further our society.

Bring me young wrote:

Utah State, same thing

Disagree. Essentially LDS.

“Religion runs this school, the Institute building is literally on campus right next to the student center — if that doesn’t show religious bias, nothing will.”

It has no religious affiliation...as I said. Mormons attend there because it's in Utah, but it is a secular college.

The Flagpole wrote: Sorry, but it is still a very conservative university.

Let's see. Other LRCers gave at least 3 examples of liberal "inclusion" idiocy running the admin the last few years (Christmas party re-named when the large majority wouldn't want it so, marching band singing curtailed to protect feelings, general gobbledygook from the "inclusion/diversity" regime), while you gave no examples of being "very conservative"... Except that maybe some Important Publication said so, and you copied it. Wonder who has the better argument...

Can Conservatives not understand that at a major university like that that many there are not Christians?

“We really wanted to kind of like, change the atmosphere from last year and that would explain the name change,” said Student Activities Association spokesman Kayp Maye to the Daily Mississippian. “‘Grand Ole Christmas’ was just – it connoted too much Christianity on campus and so we wanted to have a more inclusive environment for the holidays this year.”

But OK, maybe the Gender Diversity LGBTQ nuts will understand that there are similarly many who are not in their sway, and so Ole Miss won't have any events with names who would offend them. Oooops, they just started a "Pride Camp" last year, with full admin backing.

Flagpole wrote:

Bring me young wrote:

Disagree. Essentially LDS.

It has no religious affiliation...as I said. Mormons attend there because it's in Utah, but it is a secular college.

You keep jumping back and forth between whether the students (here attendees) are X, or the profs/admin are. Here the poster claimed that the university was essentially LDS-run (if not in name), and you responded that the students were likely to be of local religion?