The audacity of it all.
The audacity of it all.
The draft they obtained is apparently an interim report - so not the final version.
We will be reading it over the next few hours. If you see something interesting, post it here so we can take a close look.
Conclusion
As described above, the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency has found substantial and compelling evidence that Nike Oregon Project Coach Alberto Salazar and Houston endocrinologist Dr. Jeffrey Brown conspired to collude together in order to employ risky and untested alternative and unconventional (and sometimes potentially unlawful) uses of medical procedures and prescription medications (including both substances and methods prohibited and/or potentially prohibited under the rules of sport and those that were not) to attempt to increase the testosterone and energy levels and the recovery capacity of Nike Oregon Project athletes in order to boost athletic performance. Further, USADA has concluded that in so doing Dr. Brown engaged in serial violations of professional, medical and ethical obligations to his patients, putting them at increased risk of injury to their health and wellbeing and in jeopardy of losing their athletic eligibility.
jewbacca wrote:
Further, USADA has concluded that in so doing Dr. Brown engaged in serial violations of professional, medical and ethical obligations to his patients, putting them at increased risk of injury to their health and wellbeing and in jeopardy of losing their athletic eligibility.
I wonder how USADA thinks making decisions about professional, medical, and ethical obligations of medical practitioners is within its scope?
-Emails showing the team used a supplement later believed to increase cancer risk
If anyone read the report, which carcinogenic supplement was he using?
Page 14. Salazar at one point allegedly admitted to being on testosterone during his own career.
The report says :
B. Admitted testosterone use at the end of Salazar’s running career
In his interview with USADA Salazar admitted using testosterone near the end of his competitive career in the mid-1990s. Testosterone was a banned doping substance in the sport of track and field at this time and has been a banned substance in sport continuously since before the start of Salazar’s running career.
Calcotin. Nasal spray
want to avoid wrote:
-Emails showing the team used a supplement later believed to increase cancer riskIf anyone read the report, which carcinogenic supplement was he using?
This is certainly open to debate (pp. 17-18):
"Dathan Ritzenhein had not been injured much during his prior career but after joining the Oregon Project was injured for much of the time until he left in early 2015."
Page 17 - "Ritzenhein had not been injured much during his prior career but after joining the Oregon Project was injured for much of the time until he left in early 2015."
Page 25 - Magness email in December 2012 to USADA
Page 25 & 26 - Although Mr. Magness has been helpful in many
respects to USADA’s investigation, his general cooperation has at times been marked by foot dragging and an apparent reluctance to discuss in detail the full extent of his role in apparent anti-doping rule violations and particularly his role in the L-carnitine infusion program discussed below. For instance, although Mr. Magness gave USADA access to his computer and allowed USADA to make a mirror image of his hard drive, he sometimes took long periods of time to respond to records requests and even months to provide USADA access to certain records. USADA considers that this “on again, off again†approach toward assisting USADA is likely the result of ambivalence caused by Magness’s recognition of his own involvement in possible anti-doping rule violations and/or other conduct which may be regarded as suspect while at the Oregon Project.
Doesn't this just piss you off?
All of them are cheaters. I'm disappointed in Julian, Begay, Erdman and Ritz.
Very sad.
So Jenkins and Hassay will just stay with NOP?
smd wrote:
This is certainly open to debate (pp. 17-18):
"Dathan Ritzenhein had not been injured much during his prior career but after joining the Oregon Project was injured for much of the time until he left in early 2015."
There certainly seems to be an objective to the writing, doesn't there?
Centrowitz, Jenkins, Hasay, Rowbury not mentioned in this report
What happens to the long term Nike support of USATF contract if Max Siegel & usatf puts some sort of ban on NOP?
LetsRun.com wrote:
The draft they obtained is apparently an interim report - so not the final version.
It is an interim report because the investigation is not finished, not because it's a rough draft. As the report itself says,
"No final decisions have been reached concerning the outcome of USADA’s investigation and any conclusions reached in this Interim Report are subject to change."
Page 29 - Rupp’s claim that he did not get any infusion or injection of L-carnitine in 2011 is also seriously misleading. Rupp, in fact, received an L-carnitine infusion on January 5, 2012.
^^^ Not 2011...
Page 31 - Eventually, Nike and Salazar dumped some 5,000 pages of documents on USADA less than three (3) business days before Salazar’s interview, affording USADA insufficient time to review the documents in advance of the interview.
Page 33 - As a consequence of these types of communications from Salazar, Alberto Salazar’s lawyer is currently representing at least seven (7) current or former Oregon Project athletes, including Alvina Begay (former),57 Mary Cain (current),58 Matt Centrowitz (current),59 Dawn Grunnagle (former),60 Jordan Hasay (current),61 Galen Rupp (current),62 and Shannon Rowbury (current).63 As a result of the involvement of Salazar’s lawyer, and with limited exceptions as described herein, the foregoing athletes have largely refused to permit USADA to review their medical records.
It's a show about nothing. Much ado about nothing.
Drug test before comp. Pass- clean, fail- dirty banned.
No need to dig through medical records of elite athletes. Some of the stuff seems like the athletes could take the doc/al sal to court.
jewbacca wrote:
smd wrote:This is certainly open to debate (pp. 17-18):
"Dathan Ritzenhein had not been injured much during his prior career but after joining the Oregon Project was injured for much of the time until he left in early 2015."
There certainly seems to be an objective to the writing, doesn't there?
Agreed. With all the strong evidence they have, why muddy it with irrelevant, misleading and/or out-of-context statements, like this one:
"Tara Erdman recalled that Salazar demanded that the runners be secretive about their training regimen and forbade them from posting what times they were running on social media."
jewbacca wrote:
smd wrote:This is certainly open to debate (pp. 17-18):
"Dathan Ritzenhein had not been injured much during his prior career but after joining the Oregon Project was injured for much of the time until he left in early 2015."
There certainly seems to be an objective to the writing, doesn't there?
Dathan was injured his entire career prior to joining NOP. NOP was the healthiest period of his life.
Most of the group isn't cooperating fully in the investigation. If you've got nothing to hide, why not let them have full access?
Page 33 says :
As a consequence of these types of communications from Salazar, Alberto Salazar’s lawyer is currently representing at least seven (7) current or former Oregon Project athletes, including Alvina Begay (former),57 Mary Cain (current),58 Matt Centrowitz (current),59 Dawn Grunnagle (former),60 Jordan Hasay (current), 61 Galen Rupp (current),62 and Shannon Rowbury (current).63 As a result of the involvement of Salazar’s lawyer, and with limited exceptions as described herein, the foregoing athletes have largely refused to permit USADA to review their medical records.