I like this side bet for you. Pulling 500 after putting in high mileage for months is super hard. Most I ever pulled was 435, and I was 220 lbs and probably couldn’t run a mile. Now that I’ve been running for a year, I’d probably have a tough time with 315. I think he’s looking at 3-4 months after race day minimum, which gives you 6-7 months to shave off a second.
Everybody who says mid-1:26 in half isn't enough for a sub-3:00 marathon has a shitty aerobic base. Work on your endurance!!! Sorry but it's true.
All you need is decent 3-4 months of !!!EASY!!! long runs, at MAF or sub-MAF, and another block of 2-3 months of training 50-70 mpw, depending on your vo2max, with one weekly long run close to the sub-3:00 MPs (+10s to +30s MPs), once a week, progressing from 14 to 22 miles. Just keep those runs to less than 2:30 hours and you'll be set to easily crush the 3 hours!!!
KawauchiFTW wrote:
Everybody who says mid-1:26 in half isn't enough for a sub-3:00 marathon has a shitty aerobic base. Work on your endurance!!! Sorry but it's true.
All you need is decent 3-4 months of !!!EASY!!! long runs, at MAF or sub-MAF, and another block of 2-3 months of training 50-70 mpw, depending on your vo2max, with one weekly long run close to the sub-3:00 MPs (+10s to +30s MPs), once a week, progressing from 14 to 22 miles. Just keep those runs to less than 2:30 hours and you'll be set to easily crush the 3 hours!!!
'Aerobic base' with sh*t running economy doesn't give you a sub 3 off 1;26
The biggest illusion people have is that the easily attained aerobic base is all they need.
KawauchiFTW wrote:
Everybody who says mid-1:26 in half isn't enough for a sub-3:00 marathon has a shitty aerobic base. Work on your endurance!!! Sorry but it's true.
All you need is decent 3-4 months of !!!EASY!!! long runs, at MAF or sub-MAF, and another block of 2-3 months of training 50-70 mpw, depending on your vo2max, with one weekly long run close to the sub-3:00 MPs (+10s to +30s MPs), once a week, progressing from 14 to 22 miles. Just keep those runs to less than 2:30 hours and you'll be set to easily crush the 3 hours!!!
...and you'll also be faster than a 1:26 half. In most cases a 1:26 isn't fast enough. When I was in the 126 range I couldn't manage it (about 4 weeks in between). (I know, small sample size)
HM: 1:26; M: 2:58... I'm almost 50, maybe that's what it is, as I know how to suffer.... LOL;)
This is the dumbest bet ever.
I am a former power/speed athlete.
I am now 34 & weigh close to 200 lbs. I did my first ever road race a few weeks ago with a friend and ran 1:55 in a half marathon.
I promise if you gave me 1/2 the time your friend had (1 year) I could break 3 hours in a marathon.
According to mercier tables breaking 3 mins in a 1/2 marathon is equivalent to breaking 60s in a 400m so really easy for any halfway athletic - especially a former actual athlete.
weighinginman wrote:
This is the dumbest bet ever.
I am a former power/speed athlete.
I am now 34 & weigh close to 200 lbs. I did my first ever road race a few weeks ago with a friend and ran 1:55 in a half marathon.
I promise if you gave me 1/2 the time your friend had (1 year) I could break 3 hours in a marathon.
According to mercier tables breaking 3 mins in a 1/2 marathon is equivalent to breaking 60s in a 400m so really easy for any halfway athletic - especially a former actual athlete.
If you’ve already managed to crack 1:55 for a half, you’re pretty much there already. It shouldn’t take you any more than 6 months to get under 3 for a full. You should try to find someone dumb enough to take you up on that bet. Put a few grand down. Easy money.
I realize you're making fun of me here but think ya missed the point. I'm saying that even me - with my ridiculously slow current time - could break 3 minutes given a year. Thus the OPs much fitter friend - with a much longer time frame - most definitely can. Thus the dumb bet.
fatbody wrote:
weighinginman wrote:
This is the dumbest bet ever.
I am a former power/speed athlete.
I am now 34 & weigh close to 200 lbs. I did my first ever road race a few weeks ago with a friend and ran 1:55 in a half marathon.
I promise if you gave me 1/2 the time your friend had (1 year) I could break 3 hours in a marathon.
According to mercier tables breaking 3 mins in a 1/2 marathon is equivalent to breaking 60s in a 400m so really easy for any halfway athletic - especially a former actual athlete.
If you’ve already managed to crack 1:55 for a half, you’re pretty much there already. It shouldn’t take you any more than 6 months to get under 3 for a full. You should try to find someone dumb enough to take you up on that bet. Put a few grand down. Easy money.
No. You’ll be fine.
Update from OP: I raced another 400m last night. Paced it much better and ran 51.0x
Reminder: I need to run sub 50.5 before friend runs sub 3 hour marathon and then a 500lb deadlift.
Actually, it's not that easy to put your bet and to gain something if you have no experience in this!
For instance,
is very simple and can be easy for the beginners. And not all the services can provide the same extended statistics and support for people...
Are you guys fat now or what? Anyone training still?
UPDATE:
I emerge victorious.
In late October I attempted to run sub 3 but flew too close to the sun. I was under pace through the half but I never wanted to slow down to less than 4:15/km and the wheels fell off at 35km. I walk/jogged to a 3:15 which OP witnessed
Two weeks later I ran a low key "secret" marathon and just managed to dip under 3 hours. OP did not witness this race nor did I tell him I had won our bet. I wanted as much time as possible to train for the deadlift without him thinking seriously about the 400m. One month later on my wedding day I showed him a video of me lifting 430lbs and my result in the marathon. I have collected $1000 from OP.
Today I lifted 500lbs and OP has until April 23rd to PB in the 400m or he must pay be another $500
Bigwig wrote:
UPDATE:
I emerge victorious.
In late October I attempted to run sub 3 but flew too close to the sun. I was under pace through the half but I never wanted to slow down to less than 4:15/km and the wheels fell off at 35km. I walk/jogged to a 3:15 which OP witnessed
Two weeks later I ran a low key "secret" marathon and just managed to dip under 3 hours. OP did not witness this race nor did I tell him I had won our bet. I wanted as much time as possible to train for the deadlift without him thinking seriously about the 400m. One month later on my wedding day I showed him a video of me lifting 430lbs and my result in the marathon. I have collected $1000 from OP.
Today I lifted 500lbs and OP has until April 23rd to PB in the 400m or he must pay be another $500
0/10
fatbody wrote:
If you’ve already managed to crack 1:55 for a half, you’re pretty much there already. It shouldn’t take you any more than 6 months to get under 3 for a full. You should try to find someone dumb enough to take you up on that bet. Put a few grand down. Easy money.
Um, what?
So his splits will be 1:55 - 1:05?
Or 1:45 = 1:15?
I'm failing to see how a 1:55 half off of (???) Training is conclusive proof that a sub 3 thon is easy/6 months progression (esp for a 200#er)
Color my unconvinced that this is anything other than contraindicated
Um also wut? wrote:
I'm failing to see how a 1:55 half off of (???) Training is conclusive proof that a sub 3 thon is easy/6 months progression (esp for a 200#er)
Color my unconvinced that this is anything other than contraindicated
That guy is just trying to troll us. Obviously 1:55 does not actually suggest 3 hours is a given with 6 months of training. They are worlds apart.