Is Mo Farah Covered by Trump's Order?

libs are whiny brats wrote:

wejo wrote:

The ban also bans people from those countries who have green cards (legal ability to work and live in the US).

You are a joke. Green card holders will just get an extra routine screening. So a Somalian with a GC may, unless he has a shady past, spend a few extra seconds at the border control while the clerk types in some letters.

No, you are distorting the facts. The original order was that GC holders would not be admitted. Period. They changed it after the rightful outrage over it, and a ruling.

The really sad part is the cable news networks that supposedly care about ALL people didn't show any of this last night. CNN had a repeat of "The Eighties". CNN only cares when their politics align. Like a woman's march protesting things that haven't happened yet. I couldn't believe CNN wasn't covering this live last night.

I support the pres and still do. Legal permanent residents are important too, they have some rights (look it up), and they will eventually become citizens, not protestors. They are thoroughly vetted and bring incredible talent and knowledge to the country. They don't all vote left wing either. Some will support free markets.

Htch wrote:

In one week trump will either blame this on Obama or Clinton or claim that he actually never did it.

Trump is already doing that. He is now claiming the list of countries was taken from list created by Obama. No explanation from Trump why he is trying to implement Obama's plans. Those were all a "disaster."

I want proof they have changed it.

Also, trumpesque republicans DO NOT support free markets. They support import tarrifs and forcing companies to open factories in the USA.

Djdjdjdjsjbsns wrote:

Some articles refer to, "citizens" of the seven countries, some articles say, "hails from," and none that I have read address dual citizenship (not sure if Mo is dual or just British).

Mo hails from Somalia, one of the seven countries.

Another hasbarat trying hard to put on the act. LOL

Everyone sees through it these days.

Pretty sure no countries people are the problem unless you count the idiots who voted for Trump.

I think that this is a plot by Rupp, Mo isn't going to be able to train with NOP for awhile, so Rupp can gain an edge on him.

nomoremo wrote:

I think that this is a plot by Rupp, Mo isn't going to be able to train with NOP for awhile, so Rupp can gain an edge on him.

Farah rarely trains with NOP. He does all he can to stay away from his wife and kids.

Trumpsuxxx wrote:

Pretty sure no countries people are the problem unless you count the idiots who voted for Trump.

You Yanks are too stupid to survive. God, I wish we had a Trump in Europe where the likes of Angela Merkel allows one and a quarter million Africans to invade Germany and once peaceful Sweden is now one of the world’s worst countries for the crime of rape. Trump understands, if you idiots don’t, that Europe will be a Middle Eastern territory in fifty years, and he was democratically elected by people who wish to remain Christian and in a country predominantly white. Here in Europe is a continent under constant attack by Islamists, with hundreds slaughtered in Paris, Nice, Brussels, Munich, you name it, and priests having their throats cut and with no-go areas in major capitals controlled by Muslims where indigenous residents are beaten with impunity while the fuzz looks the other way. Here in the north of England hundreds of white working-class girls were raped and forced into prostitution by Pakistanis, and the police ignored it because it was politically incorrect to investigate.

Do you want to be next?

The first reaction of all previous American politicians when terrorist atrocities occur is to remind Americans that not all Muslims are terrorists. No, they’re not, but all terrorists are Muslims - just think about it.

wejo wrote:

RvaRunner wrote:

So those on athlete and entertainer visas (like Farah) are banned? Pretty sure these people are NOT the problem.

Couldn't agree more. The ban also bans people from those countries who have green cards (legal ability to work and live in the US). So if you are here you get to stay, if you are out of country you don't get allowed back. So let's pretend the country was Kenya instead of Somalia. Everyone from Kenya living and training here would be good. If you left, you wouldn't be allowed back.

I've read it may be unconstitutional. Who knows how quickly they can sort that out because non-citizens have less rights in court to begin with and if you're out of the country how to you establish jurisdiction in the country to sue?

You have read that it "may" be unconstitutional? I have read a number of places that it "is" unconstitutional. For sure the Customs and Border Control refusing to honor a stay by a Federal judge is most certainly unconstitutional. My father is a lifelong Republican -- and even he is terrified about the evaporation of our government. Pease people ... wake up ... wake the f up ...

We're waiting where your bunch of wimps finally somebody is willing to take a nun popular stand to do something for the better good but all you guys can see is poor me what about me you're freaking Burger King mentality is sickening your I want it my way right away reality may just have to take a back seat to what is really needed for the good of all not for the good of you not for the good of me but the good of all finally there's somebody with enough gumption to actually get that done so quit cryin

libs are whiny brats wrote:

wejo wrote:

The ban also bans people from those countries who have green cards (legal ability to work and live in the US).

You are a joke. Green card holders will just get an extra routine screening. So a Somalian with a GC may, unless he has a shady past, spend a few extra seconds at the border control while the clerk types in some letters.

I'm not a joke. The Department of Homeland Security Spokeswoman emailed Reuters Saturday and said, "It will bar green card holders,"

By the end of the night last night they had changed that to, green card holders would "have to visit a U.S. embassy or consulate to undergo additional screening."

Now Preibus has gone on TV and said it won't apply to green card holders going forward. Also it sounds like dual citizens will be allowed in so Mo Farah would be in the clear. "The International Air Transport Association told their airlines that dual nationals who hold a passport from an approved country would be allowed in."

Just admit they didn't think through the implications of this and banned green card holders initially.

Clealry a country can set it's own immigration policy. The US may decide to limit immigrants from certain countries or to screen them with a lot more scrutiny. They can decide to limit the numbers of immigrants from certain places. Europeans are grappling with this issue now as well.

The issue on constitutionality of this order is whether President Trump on his own can issue executive orders that some say are overruling some Congressional statutes on this. Some legal scholars are saying this isn't an issue.

As you note citizens are the ones primarily protected by the Constitution but the constitution also importantly sets up checks and balances between Congress and President. The President has a lot of leeway however in foreign affairs. So if the President actions are unconstitutional you still would need a foreign immigrant to establish standing and the ability to sue. My concerns about someone outside of the US not having standing were not very realistic as there were people over here detained at airports and then their lawyers filed suit and the judge issued the stay.

Now green card holders and people with dual citizenship are being allowed in according to CNN.

PERIOD.

The fact that they did not think this through should give us a pretty clear indication of the caliber of people who are running the executive branch. This is a pack of amateur goons.

Closing our borders and not taking in refugees is not "mean" or "heartless." I lock the doors to my house every night. I don't lock them because I hate everyone outside my house. I lock them because I love everyone inside my house. Snowflakes, feel free to leave the front door of your house open all day & night and invite everyone to stay. And don't forget to feed them, give them money, health insurance, a job, educate them, etc. AMERICA FIRST

markboen wrote:

Closing our borders and not taking in refugees is not "mean" or "heartless." I lock the doors to my house every night. I don't lock them because I hate everyone outside my house. I lock them because I love everyone inside my house. Snowflakes, feel free to leave the front door of your house open all day & night and invite everyone to stay. And don't forget to feed them, give them money, health insurance, a job, educate them, etc. AMERICA FIRST

Ahem, what is outside "YOUR" house is none of your business. You clearly stated that. "YOUR" home DOES NOT extent to the borders of America.

markboen wrote:

Closing our borders and not taking in refugees is not "mean" or "heartless." I lock the doors to my house every night. I don't lock them because I hate everyone outside my house. I lock them because I love everyone inside my house. Snowflakes, feel free to leave the front door of your house open all day & night and invite everyone to stay. And don't forget to feed them, give them money, health insurance, a job, educate them, etc. AMERICA FIRST

Is King donny ever going to do something that gets voted on??

Your post in negative in tone and should be DELETED.

PERIOD.

"You will be allowed to re-enter the United States pending a routine rescreening,"

And yes, wejo is a liberal.

And of course, Brits got an exemption to the screening. I don't think that's a good idea though. Britain is full of Muslim terrorists and they shouldn't be let in without extreme vetting.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/britain-wins-dual-national-exemption-trump-visa-ban-211543642.html