That is your view. We live in a Democracy, your vote is no more pure than mine. I don’t know what gives you liberals a belief in moral superiority. Especially considering Democrats have used minorities for political power for decades.
That is your view. We live in a Democracy, your vote is no more pure than mine. I don’t know what gives you liberals a belief in moral superiority. Especially considering Democrats have used minorities for political power for decades.
15_50 wrote:
I sure hope you are correct.
Unfortunately, I just don't have a good feeling about it.
All one has to do is look at 538 and see if trump wins FL his chances go from 13% to 40%... I think trump will win FL... from there it's nearly a toss up.
But as I said, I sure hope you are correct.
I just discussed this with my wife who said she didn't want to get her hopes up. But if Trump wins, whether I expected Biden to win and he didn't, or I had no expectations of the results, I will be just as depressed so I might as well be positive.
But I actually do think he will win. Certainly his crowds are huge and he is loved by his base but I have never known a president to be as hated as Trump.
Maybe Obama can help edge Florida back to Biden. I am a little worried because lies are a very effective campaign strategy. A lie requires people to remember two things. First you remember the lie and you associate to the target. Then you have to remember that its a lie to negate its effect.
But I still feel a Biden victory.
1) BS.
2) I don't call everyone names when I disagree with them. I call people who support Donald Trump stupid and/or racist, because they are. There are no other possibilities. You could have just been stupid, but you have shown your racist hand in this thread. Shameful. You are old enough that that kind of crap was accepted or at least not pushed back on. Times have changed, brother. You say racist things, and you will be called out...at least by me you will.
You can't compete with me. I am smarter, more educated, more up on the facts. Go find some other thread to spew your nonsense.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Dan Kahneman wrote:
I said if you supported Trump, you might have difficulty sleeping. To vote for Trump is to vote for slime (I don't use that word lightly but it fits). The only way a moral person can TRY to justify it, is too convince themselves that the democratic agenda would just be so terrible for the country that they are actually voting against that and not for Trump.
But they are voting Trump.
That is your view. We live in a Democracy, your vote is no more pure than mine. I don’t know what gives you liberals a belief in moral superiority. Especially considering Democrats have used minorities for political power for decades.
I have two questions for you (answer honestly!):
(1) Have you ever known of a president who lies as much as Trump?
and
(2) Have you ever known a president as narcissistic as Trump?
I am a pretty moderate democrat (not really liberal) and I don't agree with all of the democrat agenda, but I do think to vote for Trump, if you are a moral person, requires some mental gymnastics to be okay with it.
Flagpole wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
You should stop calling people names whom you disagree. I am just poking fun at your behavior. You try to moralize on others, but display the same Trump traits you rage against.
1) BS.
2) I don't call everyone names when I disagree with them. I call people who support Donald Trump stupid and/or racist, because they are. There are no other possibilities. You could have just been stupid, but you have shown your racist hand in this thread. Shameful. You are old enough that that kind of crap was accepted or at least not pushed back on. Times have changed, brother. You say racist things, and you will be called out...at least by me you will.
You can't compete with me. I am smarter, more educated, more up on the facts. Go find some other thread to spew your nonsense.
I doubt whether you are smarter or more educated. You certainly should add arrogant and delusional to your self-assessment. You certainly do not have common sense. You were wrong on the Trump election, Russia Hoax, Kavanaugh Hearing, and $7 Trillion in stimulus has saved your investment portfolio, for now. It would be hilarious to see you cringe with a Trump re-election.
There is reason to believe that Biden will win.
1) Betting sites say so. Rigged once trumpeted their accuracy.
2) 13 keys AND it's co-author Allan Lichtman says Biden wins. Rigged once trumpeted its accuracy.
3) IBD/TIPP says Biden will win. Rigged once trumpeted its accuracy.
4) 538, which uses a TON of polls, including Republican polls, says Biden has an 87% chance of winning and predicts 345 EC votes as of today.
5) RCP has Biden at 357 EC votes in their no toss up map.
6) Consensus is that Biden won both debates.
7) PEW Research (another Rigged-approved one) says only 85% of Republicans will vote for Trump while 93% of Democrats will vote for Biden. PEW also says Independents will go for Biden and that Biden is winning with young people, old people, white people, black people, Hispanics, women. Trump has a lead ONLY with old white men.
Hillary is not the candidate. Trump now has to run on his record as President which is abysmal. So much early voting which helps Democrats, not only because Democrats are voting over several days, but Republicans in general are putting all their eggs in one basket...Election Day. So many things can keep them from voting on that day...illness, transportation, bad weather they don't want to go out in, knowledge that Biden is so far ahead they don't want to waste the time to vote, and on and on.
There are NO realistic measures that suggest Trump will win this election.
Brother commissar Flagpole, I forgot, you were also wrong on Mueller Investigation, and Impeachment. Your judgment is actually mirrors Biden, pretty poor.
Oh dude. Time for you to go to bed.
1) There is no doubt I am smarter.
2) There is no doubt I am more educated.
3) I was RIGHT about the 2016 election, because I said he couldn't win without cheating, and he cheated...in a FELONY way too.
4) Definitely NOT a Russian hoax. That shows how dumb you are to say that.
5) Kavanaugh. Yep. I didn't think he would be seated. I have no problem admitting that.
6) NOTHING Trump has done has saved my portfolio. What a load. Had he managed COVID like he should have, my portfolio would be even better. Here's the thing about that though, brother...I'm to the point that it doesn't matter. I hit the wealth tipping point in 2015 before Trump even announced he was running for President. I have zero debt and loads of saved and invested money because of my actions going back to 1989. Trump has no role in what I have.
7) I have no doubt that you would find it hilarious to see me disappointed if somehow Trump managed to win this election. People who find glee in the disappointment of others (studies show, but logic tells) have either a self-esteem issue or an low IQ and often both. You decide which one you are. My observation tells me you have both issues.
Dan Kahneman wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
That is your view. We live in a Democracy, your vote is no more pure than mine. I don’t know what gives you liberals a belief in moral superiority. Especially considering Democrats have used minorities for political power for decades.
I have two questions for you (answer honestly!):
(1) Have you ever known of a president who lies as much as Trump?
and
(2) Have you ever known a president as narcissistic as Trump?
I am a pretty moderate democrat (not really liberal) and I don't agree with all of the democrat agenda, but I do think to vote for Trump, if you are a moral person, requires some mental gymnastics to be okay with it.
Dan,
1) No, but Biden is lying about his son. Obama lied about Bengazzi.
2) No, but may be required to deal with the corruption in Washington D.C.
It takes mental gymnastics to vote for Biden as well.
Igy
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Dan Kahneman wrote:
I have two questions for you (answer honestly!):
(1) Have you ever known of a president who lies as much as Trump?
and
(2) Have you ever known a president as narcissistic as Trump?
I am a pretty moderate democrat (not really liberal) and I don't agree with all of the democrat agenda, but I do think to vote for Trump, if you are a moral person, requires some mental gymnastics to be okay with it.
Dan,
1) No, but Biden is lying about his son. Obama lied about Bengazzi.
2) No, but may be required to deal with the corruption in Washington D.C.
It takes mental gymnastics to vote for Biden as well.
Igy
Holy F*CK batman!
Such false equivalencies.
1) Trump has lied a confirmed 20,000+ times now since he has been in office. There is NO comparison between Trump and ANYONE. Obama was found to have lied 18 times in 8 years in office. Trump does more than that every day now. WTF? I mean seriously, you are SO dumb.
2) Benghazi? (That's how you spell it by the way...you'd think if it were so important to you that you'd know how to spell it). Holy crap! NO evidence that anyone did anything wrong there. Hillary survived 8 investigations into that. Obama lied about it? No death of an American citizen is acceptable, but we are talking about 4 people here as opposed to the tens of thousands of Americans who have surely died as a result of Trump minimizing COVID...calling it a hoax, politicizing the wearing of masks.
3) Corruption in Washington? Have you SEEN the number of indictments in the Trump Administration? 215! And we're not done with the first term yet. How many indictments in 8 years of Obama's Administration? ZERO!
Damn, brother. You drank ALL the Kool-Aid...the Trump Kool-Aid, the Idiot Kool-Aid, the racist Kool-Aid, and the flat out crazy Kool-Aid.
Man. Gonna have to stop talking to you the rest of today. I can only handle so much insanity in one day. I'll be back to chastise you on another day. Become a better person.
First, you don’t talk to people, you preach. Second, I was answering the other poster’s questions. Unlike you I am not going to go on another political rant. It is your behavior that is shameful. I don’t have a bumper sticker, yard sign, or chastise other I disagree with politically. I imagine you try to intimidate any Trump voter you come in contact with. At least that is your style here.
I will leave it alone as well, since this topic obviously rules your life.
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suree wrote:
wow it just keeps mounting!!!
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LOL! What I find most interesting about articles from sources such as national file is not the nonsense that comes up, it is how the nonsense is found by the posters who link it to this site.
suree wrote:
wow it just keeps mounting!!!
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Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Dude, you are a racist, and you and I both know that, Your comments mean nothing. Go make some bad investing decisions as per usual. You are shameful.
Brother, you are a demented wacko, communist, we both know that. I’m retired in Idaho. The home to people who flee your future retirement home of California. I am sure your will feel quite at home. You can rub elbows with the similarly inclined of faux moral superiority. If the stock portfolio goes south on you just play the Mommas and Papas “California Dreaming..” It will give you the feel of being a young hippie, smoking pot, and moralizing on your vision of a better world.
You’re asking us to stop telling you that you’re a sick old man who needs help. I agree to stop picking on your sensitive soul if you agree to stop spreading wacked out material.
Dan Kahneman wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
What is shameful is your years of demented posts.
What is interesting is that Ghost knows Trump is slime. So he know longer is posting about his support for Trump but is lobbying against the "Democratic agenda".
Maybe that helps him sleep at night.
Correct, and he’s not alone
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Dan Kahneman wrote:
I said if you supported Trump, you might have difficulty sleeping. To vote for Trump is to vote for slime (I don't use that word lightly but it fits). The only way a moral person can TRY to justify it, is too convince themselves that the democratic agenda would just be so terrible for the country that they are actually voting against that and not for Trump.
But they are voting Trump.
That is your view. We live in a Democracy, your vote is no more pure than mine. I don’t know what gives you liberals a belief in moral superiority. Especially considering Democrats have used minorities for political power for decades.
Was that the case in the 1932 German Presidential election as well? Oh I shouldn’t compare right? Not only are you supporting an extremely dangerous, corrupt and incompetent “man”, you are turning to Russian content to excuse your decision. You are going into it with your eyes fully open and that makes you a giant traitor to democracy. Yes Iggy this is an attack, sorry if you can’t take it but you should really just man up and openly own what you’re doing.
I’m in the same camp but what I fear is that hatred toward this traitor isn’t going to translate to significantly less complacency. Trump has ensured that people are generally that much more disgusted with politics. The bigger threat IMO will come post election when trump tries to steal EC votes and the real shredding of democracy begins.
1101 wrote:
suree wrote:
wow it just keeps mounting!!!
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Laugh all you want, leftist. The information is being dropped hourly all the way up until the election. The Chinese have all the dirt on the Bidens, and it's only going to get worse. Your self-delusion and cognitive dissonance are on you. The majority of centrists, moderates and independents will not be voting for PedoJoe.
TTH wrote:
suree wrote:
wow it just keeps mounting!!!
https://nationalfile.com/exclusive-source-biden-daughters-diary-details-not-appropriate-showers-with-joe-as-child/LOL! What I find most interesting about articles from sources such as national file is not the nonsense that comes up, it is how the nonsense is found by the posters who link it to this site.
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