Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

L L wrote:

Sally does lie in a similar systematic and calculated way as Trump does.

Personality disorder as well then?

Interesting article. I think that this is being overblown and that Kasich will help cement the change of heart by some trumpers. Many of them need to be told by one of their own that it's ok to vote for Biden. It's a significant endorsement.

Seriously, are Dems not going to vote for Biden because Kasich spoke?

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/kasich-convention-biden/

Trollminator wrote:

Monkeys typing wrote:

Stating the obvious, but Sally is a practitioner of making the exact "error" over and over. How many times have we heard Mueller found "no obstruction, no collusion"?

It's not a mistake, it's a tactic. The only real question is to what end.

I honestly don't know Sally's deal. If it's trolling it's bizarre as he is willing to write super long paragraphs to get a simple reaction, and he hasn't learned to do it better after all this time. If it's not trolling, can someone really be that stupid???

There are many possible agendas. Clearly there are LetsRun posters who are hammering (mostly alt-right) propaganda. Whether they're simply true believers repeating stuff they've picked up elsewhere or whether they are knowing active disinformers we can't tell. For all I know, Rigged could be a bot.

Monkeys typing wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

I honestly don't know Sally's deal. If it's trolling it's bizarre as he is willing to write super long paragraphs to get a simple reaction, and he hasn't learned to do it better after all this time. If it's not trolling, can someone really be that stupid???

There are many possible agendas. Clearly there are LetsRun posters who are hammering (mostly alt-right) propaganda. Whether they're simply true believers repeating stuff they've picked up elsewhere or whether they are knowing active disinformers we can't tell. For all I know, Rigged could be a bot.

Biff is a just an idiot that became fully invested in trump at all costs. He displays unabashed ignorance, and remains on the path of willful stupidity even when he learns something.

Flagpole wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

Sally, one guy slips up once in a while, the other makes the same exact "errors" over and over. Would you not agree the latter is worse?

Sally is incapable of seeing any kind of pattern like that. His Battle of Marathon BS comment is a joke, just like he is. Never lived that down? How about not knowing how deer react to headlights? How about thinking the national debt was in billions of dollars and then emphasizing that by saying, "with a 'B'". How about bragging in this thread that he berated (angrily scolded) his wife for something she didn't even have any control over? Biggest dumb@ss a$$hole ever on this site.

Now now Flagpole. We had already at length discussed your anger issues but they seem to keep resurfacing. Think about it this way ... every minute you are angry is a minute that you not happy. Again, when you are angry for a minute that is a minute forever lost that you could have been happy. Here is a timely tip to you ... try killing your worst enemy with kindness. That person will be so befuddled that he or she won't know what to think. You might even gain a new friend. Despite the anger issues, you are still a swell guy (just an angry one).

L L wrote:

Sally does lie in a similar systematic and calculated way as Trump does.

How can I lie in a systematic and calculated way if I am outrageously stupid?

Monkeys typing wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

Sally, one guy slips up once in a while, the other makes the same exact "errors" over and over. Would you not agree the latter is worse?

Stating the obvious, but Sally is a practitioner of making the exact "error" over and over. How many times have we heard Mueller found "no obstruction, no collusion"?

It's not a mistake, it's a tactic. The only real question is to what end.

I have often said that Mueller found no collusion. No collusion. That is not an error on my part. It IS an error on yours.

Here is the NY Times (obviously a revered far-left newspaper) stating just that - that the Mueller investigation found no evidence of collusion (i.e., conspiracy). Now please quit saying that they did!

NY Times headline: Mueller Finds No Trump-Russia Conspiracy, but Stops Short of Exonerating President on Obstruction

Trollminator wrote:

Seriously, are Dems not going to vote for Biden because Kasich spoke?

Biden may take a Lincoln style to his cabinet and have a few people like Kasich on it. A conservative who is slightly left of middle of the road for a conservative, and who veers towards the constitution foremost over their political party. Trumpers wail that they are disloyal never Trumpers, and not "real Americans" ("code" for white racists who long for the good old white days that never existed).

Biden needs to appeal to moderates, and in this election that includes moderate Republicans as well as Democrats. Including Kasich is brilliant, especially since he might help Biden carry Ohio.

The Democrats truly are, or at least should be, a big tent party. Lots of different types of people, lots of different points of view. It's a challenge to run as a Democrat for President because the party goes from socialists like Bernie and AOC to middle of the roaders like Doug Jones and Conor Lamb. It's hard to keep everyone happy. I think that Biden has more to gain and less to lose if he goes out of his way to try and appeal to moderates, than if he goes hard after the progressive wing of the party. At the same time, he can't take anyone or any bloc for granted. It's a hard balancing act.

I've always thought that Biden should give speeches where he specifically appeals to Republicans to join him. The speech would be so easy write. "you joined a Republican Party that recognized the benefits of immigration, that valued honesty and the rule of law, that believed that standing with our allies made the United States a stronger nation. Ask yourself if today's Republican party is the one that you joined, and if not, I'm your guy etc. ..." Getting disaffected Republicans could be key for Biden in the swing states.

Trollminator wrote:

https://twitter.com/aynrandpaulryan/status/1293202764776914944?s=21

NO, you attacked her because she is a conservative and a woman. You can't endure such a combination. You would never attack a liberal and a woman. They are off limits. Liberal politicians can do anything and they will never be criticized. You hate that the fact that a woman can be conservative.

No no no the Democratic tent is not a big one. You don't have many types of views. If you are pro-life, you are a pariah in the Democratic community. A pariah, a persona non grata. That excludes half the population. How can you be a "big-tent" type of group when just one issue excludes half the population. I could go on with a few other issues but you do not have a big tent. Your tent is highly specific on who may enter it.

up to minus 1 wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

Seriously, are Dems not going to vote for Biden because Kasich spoke?

Biden may take a Lincoln style to his cabinet and have a few people like Kasich on it. A conservative who is slightly left of middle of the road for a conservative, and who veers towards the constitution foremost over their political party. Trumpers wail that they are disloyal never Trumpers, and not "real Americans" ("code" for white racists who long for the good old white days that never existed).

I do hope Biden thinks one of his biggest jobs is to unite the country. The biggest problem we have is the right wing which thinks dems are going to take their guns, make their boys put on dresses, give their jobs to mexicans, delete the police and outlaw church.

Biden needs to bring those people back to normal, somehow. Maybe hiring some non-trumpist Rs would be a good step.

johnny99 wrote:

I've always thought that Biden should give speeches where he specifically appeals to Republicans to join him. The speech would be so easy write. "you joined a Republican Party that recognized the benefits of immigration, that valued honesty and the rule of law, that believed that standing with our allies made the United States a stronger nation. Ask yourself if today's Republican party is the one that you joined, and if not, I'm your guy etc. ..." Getting disaffected Republicans could be key for Biden in the swing states.

the big question is whether those Rs exist...or if it's really been a white nationalist + plutocrat party from the start. That there is no material 'conservative' wing of the party.

This is a really good article about the state of the electorate in northeastern PA, around Scranton. Traditionally, a strong Democratic area, but one which has been moving to the Republicans recently. By the way, thanks to RFH, who posted it yesterday. Definitely contains some warning signs for Biden.

https://www.inquirer.com/politics/pennsylvania/carbondale-pennsylvania-trump-biden-2020-election-20200808.html

A common theme of those who maybe were Democrats but who will vote for Trump is that they feel the Democrats have moved too far left. The real question is whether these voters who may be lost to Biden will be outnumbered by voters he will pick up in Philly and Pittsburgh. As always, turnout will be key.

This guy makes me scratch my head. Just registered as a Republican last year, now works for the Trump campaign giving out lawn signs. He worked at a factory that closed in 2018 and moved production to Mexico. Trump is so good at appealing to people like this. Even though the company did exactly what Trump promised he wouldn't allow to happen (take American jobs to Mexico) and even though this guy lost his job on Trump's watch, he wants Trump re-elected.

Olyphant, like Carbondale, is a former coal town where Democrats are losing voters, including Mitchko. He became a Republican last year, after he and his wife lost their jobs at WEA Manufacturing, which produced CDs and DVDs. The factory was the largest employer in Olyphant before the company closed it in 2018 and shifted production to Mexico.

Sally Vix wrote:

L L wrote:

Sally does lie in a similar systematic and calculated way as Trump does.

How can I lie in a systematic and calculated way if I am outrageously stupid?

I never called you stupid. You have me confused with others.

I think you are a relatively smart and informed liar.

Your goal is to provide misinformation.

agip wrote:

up to minus 1 wrote:

Biden may take a Lincoln style to his cabinet and have a few people like Kasich on it. A conservative who is slightly left of middle of the road for a conservative, and who veers towards the constitution foremost over their political party. Trumpers wail that they are disloyal never Trumpers, and not "real Americans" ("code" for white racists who long for the good old white days that never existed).

I do hope Biden thinks one of his biggest jobs is to unite the country. The biggest problem we have is the right wing which thinks dems are going to take their guns, make their boys put on dresses, give their jobs to mexicans, delete the police and outlaw church.

Biden needs to bring those people back to normal, somehow. Maybe hiring some non-trumpist Rs would be a good step.

I agree with the above posts. I think Biden, by who his is, will be disrespected by the more progressive members of his own party if they he isn't far enough left. I am already seeing evidence of that. He will need to assert himself.

He needs the moderates in the swing states to win.