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It is getting bad out there.

With Bernie Sanders soaring in the Iowa polls a week before the Democratic Iowa caucuses, even some New York Times columnists are getting concerned.

NYT columnist Bret Stephens writes:

[T]he argument understates the radicalism of what [Bernie] Sanders and [Elizabeth] Warren propose. Theirs is not a painless policy massage in the direction of a kinder, gentler economy. It’s a frontal and highhanded assault on American capitalism. If it succeeded, it would entail devastating dislocations to millions of workers lasting for years. If it failed, it would have devastating effects on the country lasting for decades.

How devastating? In October, Brian Riedl of the Manhattan Institute tallied the costs of Mr. Sanders’s policy goals. By his calculations, the federal government would double in size. Half the American work force would be employed by the government, Mr. Riedl writes. Government spending as a percent of G.D.P. would rise to 70 percent (in Sweden, it’s less than 50 percent). The 15.3 percent payroll tax would hit 27.2 percent to help pay for Medicare for All. Total additional outlays would reach $97.5 trillion on top of the nearly $90 trillion the federal, state and local governments are projected to spend over the next decade.

At least Sanders is honest enough to call this what it is: socialism.

The Iowans are getting suckered by Bernie. He is a very radical socialist, I would say just one notch below that of Lenin. Like Lenin, he doesn't understand basic economics and why government planned economies can't work (See: The Most Important Book For Our Age on Socialism).

It is probably unlikely he will get the Democratic nomination but that so many support his socialist proposals is a serious concern long-term

The socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is campaigning in Iowa with Sanders and apparently to enthusiastic crowds.

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Does @AOC excite the midwest like she does NYC? @ChristRobbins and I followed her on the trail in Iowa this weekend to find out. Everywhere she went, the young Rep brought packed rooms, thrilled young voters, and a deep focus on solidarity and organizing

https://gothamist.com/news/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-iowa-weekend-without-bernie

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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez greets the crowd at a rally for Bernie Sanders in Ames, Iowa, on January 25th.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Electrifies Iowa, No Bernie Required: "She Is My President"

Senator Bernie Sanders led the polls in Iowa, but impeachment kept him in Washington. Enter AOC.

She is one very dangerous socialist. Probably, more dangerous than even Sanders and Warren. And she will be around a lot longer.

Somehow, someway, this absurd idea that central planning by government can work has to be crushed or the central planning idea, itself, will crush us all.

That article likens Bernie to Lenin. Is that who you people really want to run the country?

I’d have never guessed that, but Barrack Obama creates about 1.5 million MORE jobs in his last three in office than Donald Trump has in his first three years in office.

FFS it's an opinion piece by a conservative columnist. Posting opinion pieces as fact is really lame.

Anyway, candidates make campaign promises to show what they care about. Everyone knows congress and the courts have says in what can and can't be done.

Ciro wrote:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/teresaghilarducci/2020/02/09/trumps-economy-isnt-so-great/#67ac60df3ae9https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/482266-on-the-economy-democrats-must-brag-louder-than-trump

I’d have never guessed that, but Barrack Obama creates about 1.5 million MORE jobs in his last three in office than Donald Trump has in his first three years in office.

one of obama's faults is that he didn't toot his own horn enough.

the result is that even many dems think the economy has accelerated under trump.

but part of the problem is that Ds permanently run under the 'life is miserable we're so sorry you have to suffer through life in this country' platform. That attitude makes it hard to boast of your economic accomplishments. If you do, you get accused of being a corporate stooge.

I’d agree with much of that agip.

Racket wrote:

Wishful thinking and an underestimation/misunderstanding of the general populace in my opinion.

The Democratic party needs to move on from December 2016 rage "how could people be so dumb/racist/whatever" speculation

Wishful thinking?

I gave facts.

People are leaving the Republican party and that's what's making Trump's support within that party stronger.

The fact is that swing districts have chosen Democrats more often since the 2016 election.

There are no gains by Republicans since Trump was elected.

You can point to senate seats in N. Dakota, Missouri, Indiana and Florida, but Trump won those in 2016. Dems that were there were from the 2012 election. It was 2014 when R's gained the senate.

Virtually no state or district that voted Democrat in 2016 has moved to Republican since that 2016 election.

Plenty have left the Republicans to vote Democrat.

Maybe that will swing back this fall, but there does not seem to be a trend headed that way.

agip wrote:

Ciro wrote:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/teresaghilarducci/2020/02/09/trumps-economy-isnt-so-great/#67ac60df3ae9https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/482266-on-the-economy-democrats-must-brag-louder-than-trump

I’d have never guessed that, but Barrack Obama creates about 1.5 million MORE jobs in his last three in office than Donald Trump has in his first three years in office.

one of obama's faults is that he didn't toot his own horn enough.

the result is that even many dems think the economy has accelerated under trump.

but part of the problem is that Ds permanently run under the 'life is miserable we're so sorry you have to suffer through life in this country' platform. That attitude makes it hard to boast of your economic accomplishments. If you do, you get accused of being a corporate stooge.

You could say the same thing about Trump. One of his faults is that he doesn't toot his own horn enough.

Too young wrote:

agip wrote:

one of obama's faults is that he didn't toot his own horn enough.

the result is that even many dems think the economy has accelerated under trump.

but part of the problem is that Ds permanently run under the 'life is miserable we're so sorry you have to suffer through life in this country' platform. That attitude makes it hard to boast of your economic accomplishments. If you do, you get accused of being a corporate stooge.

You could say the same thing about Trump. One of his faults is that he doesn't toot his own horn enough.

that's either the driest sarcasm I've ever heard... or the worst post of the day.

The problem with trumpanzees is that their platform of Vote for Us or We’ll Kill You All doesn’t bring in the independents.

agip wrote:

Ciro wrote:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/teresaghilarducci/2020/02/09/trumps-economy-isnt-so-great/#67ac60df3ae9https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/482266-on-the-economy-democrats-must-brag-louder-than-trump

I’d have never guessed that, but Barrack Obama creates about 1.5 million MORE jobs in his last three in office than Donald Trump has in his first three years in office.

one of obama's faults is that he didn't toot his own horn enough.

the result is that even many dems think the economy has accelerated under trump.

but part of the problem is that Ds permanently run under the 'life is miserable we're so sorry you have to suffer through life in this country' platform. That attitude makes it hard to boast of your economic accomplishments. If you do, you get accused of being a corporate stooge.

You might be surprised, but many people consider tooting your own horn to be unappealing. It's one of the many things I dislike about Trump. For me, praise from other people is far better.

Ciro wrote:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/teresaghilarducci/2020/02/09/trumps-economy-isnt-so-great/#67ac60df3ae9https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/482266-on-the-economy-democrats-must-brag-louder-than-trump

I’d have never guessed that, but Barrack Obama creates about 1.5 million MORE jobs in his last three in office than Donald Trump has in his first three years in office.

I’m curious to know what all the Trump lovers have to say about this. Rigged, Sally, Trump....EXPLAIN

agip wrote:

Must read piece about the Dem party’s wrongheadedness here.

Its main point is that the Dems are acting like a fringe radical party rather than a mainstream party that needs to build a large tent.

And that will reelect trump unless they party stops with the crazy policies.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/2/7/21123518/trump-2020-election-democratic-party-james-carville

Here is an important advice for people like you.

"A few weeks ago, Binyamin Appelbaum, an economics writer for the New York Times, posted a snarky tweet about how LSU canceled classes for the National Championship game. And then he said, do the “Warren/Sanders free public college proposals include LSU, or would it only apply to actual schools?”

You know how fucking patronizing that is to people in the South or in the middle of the country? First, LSU has an unusually high graduation rate, but that’s not the point. It’s the goddamn smugness. This is from a guy who lives in New York and serves on the Times editorial board and there’s not a single person he knows that doesn’t pat him on the back for that kind of tweet. He’s so fucking smart.

Appelbaum doesn’t speak for the Democratic Party, but he does represent the urbanist mindset. We can’t win the Senate by looking down at people. The Democratic Party has to drive a narrative that doesn’t give off vapors that we’re smarter than everyone or culturally arrogant."

SDSU Aztec wrote:

agip wrote:

one of obama's faults is that he didn't toot his own horn enough.

the result is that even many dems think the economy has accelerated under trump.

but part of the problem is that Ds permanently run under the 'life is miserable we're so sorry you have to suffer through life in this country' platform. That attitude makes it hard to boast of your economic accomplishments. If you do, you get accused of being a corporate stooge.

You might be surprised, but many people consider tooting your own horn to be unappealing. It's one of the many things I dislike about Trump. For me, praise from other people is far better.

One thing so great about Earl Campbell was that he never tooted his own horn. He always admonished others to act like they have been there before when the scored a touchdown. The Truly greats don't need to toot their own horns. If what they have accomplished is worthy enough, others will be celebrating them for their successes. Those who accomplished taht much can just retreat into a recess where others are celebrating them. No need to toot their own horn.

The Burghh wrote:

Ciro wrote:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/teresaghilarducci/2020/02/09/trumps-economy-isnt-so-great/#67ac60df3ae9https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/482266-on-the-economy-democrats-must-brag-louder-than-trump

I’d have never guessed that, but Barrack Obama creates about 1.5 million MORE jobs in his last three in office than Donald Trump has in his first three years in office.

I’m curious to know what all the Trump lovers have to say about this. Rigged, Sally, Trump....EXPLAIN

I am not a Trump lover. But most of Obama's jobs were part-time jobs or low-paying jobs.

I would agree that that comment about LSU is smug and simply put ignorant. But it’s not all one way, take a look at any tread on here about San Francisco, California in general or even NYC. Some Middle Americans find their voices real fast to bash any and everything about those places.

None of it is balanced or helpful from either side.

I would NOT agree....*

Sally Vix wrote:

The Burghh wrote:

I’m curious to know what all the Trump lovers have to say about this. Rigged, Sally, Trump....EXPLAIN

I am not a Trump lover. But most of Obama's jobs were part-time jobs or low-paying jobs.

Did you read the Forbes article at all?

You’ve perfectly described most of the jobs created by Trump.