I want my country back. Teacher passed out drunk on field trip, City council agrees to pay her $75,000

rojo wrote:

Back in the day, this woman would have quietly been fired or sent to alcohol treatment. Now everyone is a social media star/villian.

If the logic in sentence two was correct, how would you know what happened 'back in the day' with these types of situations and any associated lawsuits without social media?

jjjjjj wrote:

Here's one of these from the Bush era:

http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2008/11/expelled_terminated_teachers_c.html

When was your country taken away from you?

This is actually a fascinating and informative read, thanks!

Remember when there were no annoying, invasive ads all over this forum? I want my letsrun back

rojo wrote:

It's abusrd in this day and age it's way cheaper to settle any lawsuit for 75k rather than pay to fight it. That's another thing I want back.

School district in 2001 pays a pervert teacher 50k to settle a lawsuit after spending 200k in legal fees.

Give me any year and I'll give you a similar example.

rojo wrote:

It sucks for her that she's infamous but it's not worthy of 75k. It's abusrd in this day and age it's way cheaper to settle any lawsuit for 75k rather than pay to fight it. That's another thing I want back.

This is really the only relevant issue.

Nobody determined that anybody did anything wrong. They decided it was cheaper to settle than to fight.

Most of the money is likely to go to the woman's lawyer. They are the only ones who win in this.

This is not a new development.

the policy wording wrote:

I'd have to see the policy wording. But certainly the legal advice provided to the city was that they would be liable for the full amount if they refused the settlement offer urged by their insurer.

http://janesville.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=5&clip_id=1301&meta_id=45054

Ahhh. I did not realize they were self-insured. In this case, the city would be liable. Good link, thanks.

@rojo, what country do you want back? The one without unions? The one without a surplus of lawyers?

I think most of us agree that it's crazy that she is going to get a payout, but that is the price we pay for having a system that also helps prevent a teacher from being fired for having different political views from the principal.

The fact is that payouts happen all time time. It's cheaper than fighting. Usually they happen quietly. I think this woman made a very poor choice by not taking whatever initial severance she was offered. The amount she will end up with (35-40K) is probably similar to what she was offered before lawyering up and now everyone knows she is a drunk.

Old Hand Timer wrote:

She made a terrible decision and lost her job for it, as she should have.

Officials also erred in releasing information that the law dictates should have been made private. The board's insurance company likely is saving the board money by settling without proceeding further.

I don't see what's wrong with this scenario. People who make mistakes or commit crimes still have basic rights under the law. If wanting your country back means reverting to a time before those rights were protected then you're looking for a time well before the constitution.

The article admits to not knowing the legality, but I assume it was against the law to release her BAC.

Whoever decided to add that extra .27 to the public report made a $75000 mistake.

Chjvxcbb wrote:

The article admits to not knowing the legality, but I assume it was against the law to release her BAC.

Whoever decided to add that extra .27 to the public report made a $75000 mistake.

I have no idea why you would assume that. I cannot think of a likely theory for why that would be illegal.

The suit filed (from best I can tell) is civil for infliction of emotional distress. That does not require any proof of illegality.

The suit was settled because cost of fighting it would be more than the cost to settle. That does not mean the suit had any merit at all. In fact that is pretty much the definition of a nuisance suit.

rojo wrote:

The fact that people are ripping me for mentioning this article only makes me want to double down on "I want my country back." . .

Hey, go ahead and double down on stupid. Happens all the time.

In all fairness, as a Conservative Libertarian I am greatly disappointed to hear or read threads like this from a supposedly like-minded individual who values liberty. Despite this woman's obvious misconduct per the information provided, individual liberties and due process should not be violated just for some vague notion of carrying out 'law and order.' All persons, innocent and guilty, deserve to be treated fairly under the law. Our disgust for her alleged conduct should not justify some authoritarian fantasy of public shaming and eternal punishment. ROJO is wrong and ideologically inconsistent on this issue, BIGLY.

Obvious Answers wrote:

rojo wrote:

The fact that people are ripping me for mentioning this article only makes me want to double down on "I want my country back." . .

Hey, go ahead and double down on stupid. Happens all the time.

Yeah, 'specially with those from Texas, where in fact it is a state tradition-

off base wrote:

@rojo, what country do you want back? The one without unions? The one without a surplus of lawyers?

Oh, I wish I was in the land of cotton,

Old times there are not forgotten.

Look away, look away, look away Dixie Land!

In Dixie's Land, where I was born in,

early on one frosty mornin'.

Look away, look away, look away Dixie Land!

I wish I was in Dixie, Hooray! Hooray!

In Dixie's Land I'll take my stand,

to live and die in Dixie.

Away, away, away down south in Dixie!

Away, away, away down south in Dixie!

There's buckwheat cakes and Injun batter,

Makes you fat or a little fatter.

Look away! Look away! Look away! Dixie Land

Then hoe it down and scratch your gravel,

To Dixie's Land I'm bound to travel.

Look away! Look away! Look away! Dixie Land

I wish I was in Dixie, Hooray! Hooray!

In Dixie's Land I'll take my stand,

to live and die in Dixie.

Away, away, away down south in Dixie!

Away, away, away down south in Dixie!

rojo sez: me wants back the merica likes us brojos had when we wus kids. me jest luvved lookin out that theyre windaw an seein those darkies choppin are cottin

wejo sez: an are howse servent Jemima wuld dun brings us are kookies an milk

rojo sez: plantashun life shoor was sweet back in them days

wejo sez: us had lots o nappy heads two do all the werk

rojo sez: these hear days, all them darkies gets so uppity and aint not shows no respekt fer there masters

Read the article, rojo wrote:

Their not paying her anything. The insurance company is giving her $75k rather than go to court and possibly end up paying her millions.

Their not paying her anything is what?

rojo wrote:

wejosvotewontmatter wrote:

The brojos love Trump so much its making their already limited comprehension skills even worse. BIGLY!!

What does this have to do with Trump and why do people think we love Trump? I think early voting in Texas has already started and Weldon voted for someone else .

Hope it wasn't Hilary...🙄