Usain Bolt runs a 2:07 800m. Can he break 5?

If you were to plot his performance for 100, 200, 400, 800 and extrapolate to 1 mile, I wouldn't put my money on Bolt being able to break 5.

Aerobic development is archaic and simplistic terminology.

Are you the same guy who believes no HS kid can run 14:07 5000 on less than 120miles/week?

Bolt is correct ...yes he can run < 5.

jjjjjj wrote:

he's run 45 early in the season. I have no doubt at all that he would run 44--probably 43--at the height of the season.

At the height of the season, he is focusing on top speed. That means his 400 ability will get worse not better. At the Olympics, he might have been as slow as 47s for 400m.

Not after he parties and drinks a load of alcohol

Bob Schul Country wrote:

2:07 does not equal a sub 5 for a guy with no aerobic development. His 2nd 800 would likely be 2:50

so 2:07 and 2:50 is more than 5?

Clearly you are from a non math country

Aerobe wrote:

His 400 and 800 times are very weak indicators for mile performance.

He has no aerobic training.

He would not break 5 unless he did aerobic training for several years to completely change his physiology.

Nothing in the Universe is more obvious.

Rubbish.

He can jog a 5 min mile. I was slower than him at everry sprint distance and could o it in my sleep. And I wasn't a distance guy, I was 10.3, 46.4.

And 1:53 without killing myself, and 3: 04 for 3/4 mile. And I ran 5:30 as a 12 year old, and as a 50 year old.

Don't measure an elite athletes potential / performance by your inability to perform and lack of talent. You are clearly the sort that loves numbers, and thinks that its the most imprtant thing. I love numbers. But top performance is more about will than it is about talent.

Physical abiliuty is a lot more commn than mential strength. If Bolt says he can do it, he can. Its not that hard when you have talent.

sowhat wrote:

Aerobe wrote:

His 400 and 800 times are very weak indicators for mile performance.

He has no aerobic training.

He would not break 5 unless he did aerobic training for several years to completely change his physiology.

Nothing in the Universe is more obvious.

Rubbish.

He can jog a 5 min mile. I was slower than him at everry sprint distance and could o it in my sleep. And I wasn't a distance guy, I was 10.3, 46.4.

And 1:53 without killing myself, and 3: 04 for 3/4 mile. And I ran 5:30 as a 12 year old, and as a 50 year old.

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But you were not running 10.3 and 46.4 as a 12 yr old nor as a 50 yr old.

I say Bolt could do a 4:46 mile.

Tim Layden, also of SI, told me via tweet that Bolt got pretty "worked up" about this. bolt felt "insulted" that people should consider otherwise.

Personally I don't care what Bolt says, how should he know if he can break 5 for the mile unless he's tried?

Maybe somebody can convince him to do it after retiring. We need to get his butt-buddy Andre DeGrasse to convince him to run a mile.

reed wrote:

Tim Layden, also of SI, told me via tweet that Bolt got pretty "worked up" about this. bolt felt "insulted" that people should consider otherwise.

Personally I don't care what Bolt says, how should he know if he can break 5 for the mile unless he's tried?

Maybe somebody can convince him to do it after retiring. We need to get his butt-buddy Andre DeGrasse to convince him to run a mile.

LMFAO

Bolt could break 5 while pulling your skinny a$$ on a sled. Maybe even without a sled. Better get your pals to lube you up to avoid that turf burn while Usain does his 4:4X warmup jog.

disgraceful_admin wrote:

reed wrote:

Tim Layden, also of SI, told me via tweet that Bolt got pretty "worked up" about this. bolt felt "insulted" that people should consider otherwise.

Personally I don't care what Bolt says, how should he know if he can break 5 for the mile unless he's tried?

Maybe somebody can convince him to do it after retiring. We need to get his butt-buddy Andre DeGrasse to convince him to run a mile.

LMFAO

Bolt could break 5 while pulling your skinny a$$ on a sled. Maybe even without a sled. Better get your pals to lube you up to avoid that turf burn while Usain does his 4:4X warmup jog.

Listening to that video, the mere thought that someone could think he couldn't break 5 is enough to make Usain triple-take, laugh, and laugh again. His reaction tells me it's probably the most absurd thing he's heard in quite a while.

All the closet physiologists living down by the river that post their idiotic extrapolations here don't understand how easy 5:00/mile is.

Let's hope I don't set off the spam filters... with this 100% FREE IQ TEST!: Can you picture a horde of 11 year old 90lb boys dusting USAIN BOLT over 4 laps on the track?

I have never seen a table e.g. McMillan, that equates a 2:07 to a 4:30 mile performance--what I have seen it is around 2:01 or 2:02

I'd bet my mom's car that she lets me drive RIGHT NOW that he could break 5 easily.

Kev2 wrote:

I have never seen a table e.g. McMillan, that equates a 2:07 to a 4:30 mile performance--what I have seen it is around 2:01 or 2:02

I don't think VDOT equivalences are really meant to be used for anything under 1500m. I should probably have the bot warn about that just to not give people the wrong idea.

I question whether he could even finish a mile without having to walk.

It's hilarious that people think that Bob meant Bolt would go out in 2:07 in his attempt.

Sure, and El G should have went out in 1:42.

I agree. It is probably harder to extrapolate performance from middle or long distances to sprints and vice versa than from say the mile to even the marathon. It seems when you start dealing with anaerobic threshold and lactic acid buildup, the phenomenon becomes less linear from a quantitative point-of-view since you have to consider other variables besides just vdot.

Bolt wouldn't go out in 2:07 but in 9.58.

Also, no chance at all he breaks 5. Cool that he was worked up at the thought he couldn't though, if we all talk sh!t about him maybe he will try it.

When did he run that 2:07? That could be when he just started "track" and didn't know anything. He can do sub 2:00 right now I bet. People have to get through their head that 5 min mile is really nothing special. People who don't even look to be in shape can run a 5 min mile. And we're talking about a guy who can run 45 secs 400 here.