Will Mo Farah ever get caught or will he get away with it all?

Will Kare wrote:

You mean like no one cared about Lance being caught?

The only thing Lance could ever do was attack people. At minimum, Mo is awesome in PR mode. That he dopes will pass like Paula's doping.

Party City wrote:

trackfan. wrote:

Now that the british have control of anti-doping and the IAAF is he fully protected?

My guess: No. They'll be a few more pieces of circumstantial evidence that he can just lie away, but he'll never go down.

Sadly, this is the most likely outcome. He will fill the position held by Lasse Viren, a guy that is 4 x Olympic champion but most know that he was blood doping.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Lance is clean wrote:

Lance's blood data showed no anomalies.

Haha! Why do you make stuff up?

This was when the guy was doping/riding

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/analysis-armstrongs-tour-blood-levels-debated/

That link is based on a single researcher (Jakob Mørkeberg) from 2009, not is not from a real testing lab. The researcher had just finished a a Ph. D. That means fresh out of school. Researcher usually work hard to make names for themselves, much link ambulance chasing attorneys.

Nothing he discusses is used by WADA to nab dopers. Maybe someone here knows otherwise, but since 2009 his research doesn't seem to have gone anywhere. Doesn't seem to have gotten his method into the mainstream of WADA testing and evaluation.

QUOTE: “His blood profile contradicts what we see and what we know from international studies during the last few decades,” he said in a phone interview. “His blood values are not acting as we would expect, so that is highly unusual.”

Some people are just faster than others. That's clear when kids are 8 years old. Are all fast 8 year old kids doping??

trackfan. wrote:

Now that the british have control of anti-doping and the IAAF is he fully protected?

Let us speculate for a moment, if he was on something what exactly would it be?

A) EPO

B) a designer muscle building drug (I would say steriod but this may be a dated term).

C) blood doping (IV)

D) Androgel

E) A Balco styled cocktail.

F) Peptide patches.

G) lots of vitamin and amino acid injections.

H) insulin

I) geref

J) igf-1 ir3

dc wonk wrote:

Some people are just faster than others. That's clear when kids are 8 years old. Are all fast 8 year old kids doping??

I was faster than all other kids at 8 years old, the guy that wrote "Running with the Kenyans" said he was faster than the other kids at about that age. I bet you Ben Johnson was faster than the other kids at eight. Polynesian kids are by far the fastest kids in the world at eight but none of them suddenly became invincible at the Olympics at 29.

And retains the same invincibility at the Olympics at 33.

Lance v2 wrote:

He is Lance v2.

No, he is not Lance v2 because he is not treating people the way Lance did, not pissing off so many people. The powers that be would probably consider it too damaging a blow to the sport were Mo or Bolt to be caught. If there ever were a positive test result- unlikely in itself- I doubt the public would hear about it.

and keeps on going wrote:

And retains the same invincibility at the Olympics at 33.

Heck he was even more dominant at 33 then he was at 29.

For better or for worse (mostly worse), the general public knew lance. The general public has never heard of Mo Farrah.

The "general public" that you are referring to is the US population. Mo is a British runner and is a huge celebrity there. Yes, Armstrong was probably more widely known than Mo Farah is now, but you can't argue that Mo has zero international fame.

You mean will Mo's rivals catch him in the homestretch, or will he get away from them? No to the first part and yest to the second.

Mope Dealer wrote:

trackfan. wrote:

Now that the british have control of anti-doping and the IAAF is he fully protected?

Let us speculate for a moment, if he was on something what exactly would it be?

A) EPO

B) a designer muscle building drug (I would say steriod but this may be a dated term).

C) blood doping (IV)

D) Androgel

E) A Balco styled cocktail.

F) Peptide patches.

G) lots of vitamin and amino acid injections.

H) insulin

I) geref

J) igf-1 ir3

Designer HIF, I think would be very likely in many current semi-sophisticated programs. Tests for 4592 have long been available (3-4yrs now), but small molecular changes can make all the difference when it comes to testing. However, I don't think mo could be doping for the very reason that he seems very, very dense...ie not smart AT ALL. I don't think a guy like that could pass tests over and over.

Carlos Danger wrote:

Mope Dealer wrote:

Let us speculate for a moment, if he was on something what exactly would it be?

A) EPO

B) a designer muscle building drug (I would say steriod but this may be a dated term).

C) blood doping (IV)

D) Androgel

E) A Balco styled cocktail.

F) Peptide patches.

G) lots of vitamin and amino acid injections.

H) insulin

I) geref

J) igf-1 ir3

Designer HIF, I think would be very likely in many current semi-sophisticated programs. Tests for 4592 have long been available (3-4yrs now), but small molecular changes can make all the difference when it comes to testing. However, I don't think mo could be doping for the very reason that he seems very, very dense...ie not smart AT ALL. I don't think a guy like that could pass tests over and over.

You think the athletes are in charge of their doping routine...?

We need to petition Julius Assange to hack WADA and UKAD system, past and present. Just wondering why he has not done so yet this issue is of much public interest.

kimani wrote:

Carlos Danger wrote:

Designer HIF, I think would be very likely in many current semi-sophisticated programs. Tests for 4592 have long been available (3-4yrs now), but small molecular changes can make all the difference when it comes to testing. However, I don't think mo could be doping for the very reason that he seems very, very dense...ie not smart AT ALL. I don't think a guy like that could pass tests over and over.

You think the athletes are in charge of their doping routine...?

I think that they are in charge in the respect that they inject/etc themselves. Obviously, this has to be done in a certain time frame, and done appropriately. I don't think Mo is responsible enough for that. Regarding the set schedule (what/when to use), there's not a doubt in my mind that would be a disaster were most athletes in charge of their own regimen. Good catch, and important to clarify.

... this has to be done in a certain time frame, and done appropriately. I don't think Mo is responsible enough for that. Regarding the set schedule (what/when to use) ...[/quote]

Shall we call this The Lochte Defense? Too dumb to know what they are doing.

Mope Dealer wrote:

and keeps on going wrote:

And retains the same invincibility at the Olympics at 33.

Heck he was even more dominant at 33 then he was at 29.

^ This. There is this unatural over confidence in Mo more so now at 33 than ever before. He's done that last runner in the line when the pace is pedestrian since 2012 and he continues to do it. Whatever PED Mo has been developed through, he is supremely confident in what it gives him and in its untraceable nature.

The problem is that people are bandwagoners. I have to assume most pro-Mo Farah folks didn't know him pre-2011 (Salazar announcement end of Feb '11). He was never really a top finisher and he certainly was known for getting owned on the bell lap. Truly. I posted at least 5 races pre-2011 that show this and I'm taking '09/'10 too. If you watch him at 27/28 and then at 33 it STANDS out. He's had PEDs.

But like good little lemmings everyone jumps oF the cliff for the Mobot. He's our hero!

He's a fraud.

He will keep running slow paces, and outkick the others.

If someone was going to beat him they would have done it by now.

The only change will be if someone like Bekele comes along in top shape, runs hard all the way and runs Farah off his feet.

But otherwise, he will keep getting away with it.