pretty sure Mo Farah said that Rio was going to be his last Olympics
pretty sure Mo Farah said that Rio was going to be his last Olympics
affiliated wrote:
pretty sure Mo Farah said that Rio was going to be his last Olympics
He didn't say that
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/aug/21/mo-farah-family-first-decision-tokyo-2020-gamesBen L Wrong wrote:
Probably Mo is going to compete in both 10000m and the marathon (as Galen did).
And Mo knows that if Galen was 3rd and 5th in each event, he could medal in both, because, it seems like there's no real competition for him in 10000m)
Both athletes are going to be there in 2020 (Mo with 37 years old and probably with a lack of speed for 3000/5000m, and Eliud with 35, 100% focused in the marathon), not only "competing", but also as medal contenders.
Who wins between Mo and Eliud in a 2:09/2:10 tactical marathon? Eliud's stamina or Mo's final speed?
Exactly how often is marathons won by final speed (even tactical)? Answer: almost never. There is almost never "sitting and kicking" in marathons.
"final speed" in a marathon: when you're being able to run 14:2x split from 35k to 40k and mantain that pace to the finish line. Like Eliud did in Rio.
Kipchoge may be the GOAT now, but we could have every chance of having another GOAT by 2020..or at least one in the making.
Tergat, Robert Cheriyot (sorry for spelling), Geb, Wanjiru, G. Mutai, Makau, Kipsang, Kimetto, now Kipchoge. Another will come.
oh please wrote:
Kipchoge may be the GOAT now, but we could have every chance of having another GOAT by 2020..or at least one in the making.
Tergat, Robert Cheriyot (sorry for spelling), Geb, Wanjiru, G. Mutai, Makau, Kipsang, Kimetto, now Kipchoge. Another will come.
If that were true wouldn't he just be the greatest thus far or of right now? To be the greatest of all time that would have to include the future. He isn't the greatest so far anyway. He doesn't have the world best.
Ben L Wrong wrote:
I don't think Mo needs 2:05 PB for Tokyo 2020. Galen was far from that (2:11.12), and was with Eliud until 35k.
Moreover: Jared Ward was 6th, with only 2:13 PB coming to Rio.
Eritrean Geb was 4th with 2:07.46 PB (equal to Ritz PB), and Alphonse Simbu was 5th, with only 2:09.19 PB coming to Rio.
The key is the HM pace. Mo Farah needs a 1:05 first half, as we saw in Rio. And another key is mentality. Galen always have faith in his training with Alberto. He doesn't fear Africans. Same with Mo.
why even take time to post this, but it was obvious Rupp is not simply a 2:11 marathoner before the OGs. don't @ me with "well he hadn't ran it yeah so..."
well,. wrote:
Ben L Wrong wrote:Probably Mo is going to compete in both 10000m and the marathon (as Galen did).
And Mo knows that if Galen was 3rd and 5th in each event, he could medal in both, because, it seems like there's no real competition for him in 10000m)
Both athletes are going to be there in 2020 (Mo with 37 years old and probably with a lack of speed for 3000/5000m, and Eliud with 35, 100% focused in the marathon), not only "competing", but also as medal contenders.
Who wins between Mo and Eliud in a 2:09/2:10 tactical marathon? Eliud's stamina or Mo's final speed?
Exactly how often is marathons won by final speed (even tactical)? Answer: almost never. There is almost never "sitting and kicking" in marathons.
Ummm... ever heard of Toshihiko Seko?
Joking aside, Salazar over Beardsley in 1983 Boston.
Thugwane over Lee in Atalanta Olympics.
Mutai over Mosop in 2011 Boston.
Desisa over Kogo and Gebremariam in 2013 Boston.
Kipsang over Desisa in 2014 NYC.
Kipchoge over Kipsang and Kimetto in 2015 London.
Boston in 2008-2012 for women.
Edna over Florence in 2014 London.
There are probably many more I overlooked.
Ben L Wrong wrote:
I don't think Mo needs 2:05 PB for Tokyo 2020. Galen was far from that (2:11.12), and was with Eliud until 35k.
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My point was nothing to do with an Olympic Marathon, it was about Farah showing that he has the credentials to be there, if his next big city Marathon is 2:08 or slower then chances are he will pack it in as he isn't going to be a contender.
Kipchoge anastaafu mwakani. Keshazeeka tayari.
oh please wrote:
Kipchoge may be the GOAT now, but we could have every chance of having another GOAT by 2020..or at least one in the making.
Tergat, Robert Cheriyot (sorry for spelling), Geb, Wanjiru, G. Mutai, Makau, Kipsang, Kimetto, now Kipchoge. Another will come.
Right. Since 2003, you list 9 greatests.
Marathoners' time on the top is short. Kipchoge won't be the best of the best by 2020.
Kamwarrior wrote:
At that point Kamworor will beat them both in the marathon.
This is most likely the case.
It's interesting though .... Over the last few years folks have said the track distance events have suffered because all the top talent is now in the roads. Galen, in his second marathon, wins a bronze medal in the M, but only fifth in the 10 000m, the event he has the best experience, record and PB in. Maybe the taken in the roads isn't quite what it's been touted to be?
I'm more interested to see how many really good Japanese runners make it their goal to be great marathoners by 2020, when the Olympics come home for them. Right now, there are probably a hundred very talented, young Japanese runners getting really excited about Tokyo 2020.
Wtfunny wrote:
Kamwarrior wrote:At that point Kamworor will beat them both in the marathon.
This is most likely the case.
It's interesting though .... Over the last few years folks have said the track distance events have suffered because all the top talent is now in the roads. Galen, in his second marathon, wins a bronze medal in the M, but only fifth in the 10 000m, the event he has the best experience, record and PB in. Maybe the taken in the roads isn't quite what it's been touted to be?
The marathon is still stronger than the 10k. Kenya and Ethiopia have several more athletes that would have beat Rupp. The Olympic field is limited by entries per country. So him finishing third doesn't mean as much as it would in London, Dubai, Berlin,etc.
NativeSon wrote:
kipchoge would nail Mo Farah.
But will he nail him from behind. (h/t/ Larry Rawson)
Sure! hand me a martini wrote:
Wtfunny wrote:This is most likely the case.
It's interesting though .... Over the last few years folks have said the track distance events have suffered because all the top talent is now in the roads. Galen, in his second marathon, wins a bronze medal in the M, but only fifth in the 10 000m, the event he has the best experience, record and PB in. Maybe the taken in the roads isn't quite what it's been touted to be?
The marathon is still stronger than the 10k. Kenya and Ethiopia have several more athletes that would have beat Rupp. The Olympic field is limited by entries per country. So him finishing third doesn't mean as much as it would in London, Dubai, Berlin,etc.
True. I did think of that, we're he running those marathons, sure. But he beat all but two of the guys who have run those marathons before.