Ryan Lochte tweeted
Thanks to all the folks at pine bros. for your confidence in me. I look forward to making you proud.
Ryan Lochte tweeted
Thanks to all the folks at pine bros. for your confidence in me. I look forward to making you proud.
The organizer of a track meet, and the IOC/USOC are two different things. The IOC/USOC is putting on a spectacle for millions and millions of dollars in a foreign country which may have a corrupt criminal system.
Going in the IOC knew that their choice of location put the athletes lives at risk, but their concern was for the millions of dollars that the spectacle would generate.
Some of the athletes were swimming in raw sewage. Did the IOC care?
The main difference between the IOC and a track meet organizer is that the former is an organization formed from national orgs. In fact, the local Rio organizing committee for the 2016 Games is probably quite like a track meet organizer, on a different scale.
If the athletes don't like the IOC, they can simply choose not to participate.
The IOC acknowledged there were (minor) risks involved with Rio, and cautioned the national Olympic committees and their athletes accordingly. As the marketer of the Olympics, they have the right to monetize the Games as they see fit. If they chose to hold the Games in a manifestly unsafe place, again, many athletes would stay home, reducing the spectacle. Each athlete weighed the equation, and the great majority found that the risk was sufficiently small compared to the opportunity being given to participate.
The athletes knew what they were getting into. The IOC is only responsible for giving proper guidance after due diligence. Any further delict (concerning environmental hazards) would be the fault of Brazil, not the IOC.
None of this has anything due to with the Lochte situation. Athletes still retain personal responsibility for their actions.
We have confidence in Ryan! wrote:
Ryan Lochte tweetedThanks to all the folks at pine bros. for your confidence in me. I look forward to making you proud.
I am proud for Ryan too!
Let's see. It's not Lochte's fault (and other USA swimmers), it's the gas station employees. Or the gas station owner's. Or the USOC. Or the IOC. Or the media. Or Brazil's.
Learn what responsibility is, or suffer the consequences.
Pass the blame. wrote:
Let's see. It's not Lochte's fault (and other USA swimmers), it's the gas station employees. Or the gas station owner's. Or the USOC. Or the IOC. Or the media. Or Brazil's.
Learn what responsibility is, or suffer the consequences.
Nobody has tried to blame the taxi driver yet?
J. Hirsch wrote:
Pass the blame. wrote:Let's see. It's not Lochte's fault (and other USA swimmers), it's the gas station employees. Or the gas station owner's. Or the USOC. Or the IOC. Or the media. Or Brazil's.
Learn what responsibility is, or suffer the consequences.
Nobody has tried to blame the taxi driver yet?
I tried to blame Club France (it's all the French's fault), for not having USA swimmers urinate before leaving.
To give Lochte credit, he hasn't tried to blame his mother.
Pass the blame. wrote:
Let's see. It's not Lochte's fault (and other USA swimmers), it's the gas station employees. Or the gas station owner's. Or the USOC. Or the IOC. Or the media. Or Brazil's.
Learn what responsibility is, or suffer the consequences.
Or the Brazilian cop's fault. Or the Brazilian legal system's fault. Or the maker of the sandwich poster.
More faults wrote:
Pass the blame. wrote:Let's see. It's not Lochte's fault (and other USA swimmers), it's the gas station employees. Or the gas station owner's. Or the USOC. Or the IOC. Or the media. Or Brazil's.
Learn what responsibility is, or suffer the consequences.
Or the Brazilian cop's fault. Or the Brazilian legal system's fault. Or the maker of the sandwich poster.
Don't forget to blame the Brazilian gun lobby too.
Lochte had no reason not to talk to the police, providing (of course) he actually had told the truth.
To decline to talk to the police would have been pretty suspicious (like the Josh Palmer swimmer from Australia, who only gave a statement much later).
every morning I prepare a cup of coffee and come here to laugh. exthrower, you know there are doctors that cure what you have, right? take some pills man, come back to reality.
Not about talking, about truth wrote:
Lochte had no reason not to talk to the police, providing (of course) he actually had told the truth.
To decline to talk to the police would have been pretty suspicious (like the Josh Palmer swimmer from Australia, who only gave a statement much later).
After he made well-publicized statements to NBC about the so-called "robbery" incident, to refuse to attest the same to the police would make him liable for public infamy and slander.
Sure it does. It shows that the IOC doesn't give a crap about the athletes. They only care about the millions to be made on the backs of the athletes working for free.
The athletes definitely weren't aware of what was going on in Brazil. How many kids were murdered in the lead up to the games?
'In Rio de Janeiro alone, police were responsible for 8,471 homicides between 2005 and 2014.
At a national level, police were responsible for more than 11,197 homicides between 2009 and 2013, according a study by the Sao Paulo-based Brazilian Forum on Public Safety."
I guess that the IOC/USOC is ok with the homeless kids being liquidated so that the Olympic tourists and television wouldn't have to see their wretched faces.
Don't want the spectacle product contaminated.
Shakedown wrote:
The organizer of a track meet, and the IOC/USOC are two different things. The IOC/USOC is putting on a spectacle for millions and millions of dollars in a foreign country which may have a corrupt criminal system.
Jeah, the Olympics in duh America USA many times.
J. Hirsch wrote:
Nobody has tried to blame the taxi driver yet?
Which taxi driver? The driver who accidentally choose to drive to the station where the restroom door was locked that lead to this sordid episode? Or the driver of the wrong cab the intoxicated boys climbed into who failed to plow through the security guards to make an epic movie-style escape?
Plus for Ryan in my book wrote:
To give Lochte credit, he hasn't tried to blame his mother.
Has anyone in the media asked Lochte why he lied to his mom in the first place? Had he not done that, the incident would have never become public.
yuiop wrote:
Plus for Ryan in my book wrote:To give Lochte credit, he hasn't tried to blame his mother.
Has anyone in the media asked Lochte why he lied to his mom in the first place? Had he not done that, the incident would have never become public.
You don't know? This really requires no explanation. He has done it all his life, since he was a little kid. Nothing new to see here. An explanation for being out later than he promised his mom.
Lochte is hosed wrote:
Conundrum wrote: WHEN DID HE ACTUALLY MAKE A FALSE REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE POLICE?He gave a statement to police on Sunday at about 7:30pm (or says his lawyer to USA TODAY).
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/rio-2016/2016/08/16/ryan-lochte-robbery-gunpoint-rio-taxi-security/88865556/It was many hours before Lochte met with U.S. authorities, according to Jeff Ostrow, Lochte's attorney. Ostrow told USA TODAY Sports on Tuesday that Lochte met with representatives from the State Department, FBI, Tourist Police and the USOC's security team at about 7:30 p.m. Sunday night. It was Lochte's first interaction with police and he gave his statement with Ostrow on the phone.
I read your link. But it really doesn't specifically say what exactly was in the statement that Lochte gave to the police at that time.
No question Lochte is a 32 year old emotionally stuck in a egotistical fratboy level of development but I think the pursuit of charges here is quite ridiculous.
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