Did Abby d just tear her acl?

Dr. Smith wrote:

Great work Rojo. I appreciate the coverage and the quick takes. Now if only there was a way to go back and fix NBC, USA Today, and all the other outlets that are parroting Hutchings saying Abbey rammed her from behind.

I am cautiously optimistic that by the time NBC's prime time show airs tonight with the inevitable human interest story regarding this incident, they will have their facts straight.

I was a long-time Abbey D fan before today's events, but am an even bigger admirer now!

Dr. Smith wrote:

I usually hate those dramatic and emotional moments of courage (cough-Montano-cough) but seeing what her knee did, and hearing how she helped get Hamblin going again, I'm actually moved. D'Agostino gained a fan today.

Yeah, I also only believe in physical pain and think that emotional pain is just something Montano faked to try to gain sympathy.

I also thought it was really annoying that Montano made us watch her suffer for an entire 45 seconds, while Abbey D'Agostino was gracious and only made us watch for 7 minutes of her in agony.

Letsrun.com wrote:

We have a story up here with photos.

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2016/08/abbey-dagostino-nikki-hamblin-show-true-meaning-olympics-almaz-ayana-leads-womens-5000-qualifiers/

"Hamblin was full of praise for D’Agostino after the race.

“When I went down, I was like, ‘What’s happening, why am I on the ground?’” Hamblin said. “And suddenly there’s this hand on my shoulder like, ‘Get up, get up, we have to finish this.’ And I’m like ‘Okay, yep, yep, you’re right, it’s the Olympic Games, we have to finish this.’ I’m so grateful for Abbey for doing that for me. I mean, that girl is the Olympic spirit right there.

“I finished and I had a lonely last four laps but she ran four and a half laps barely being able to run. I’m so impressed and inspired that she did that. I’ve never met her before. Like, I’ve never met this girl before. And isn’t that just so amazing? That’s an amazing moment. Regardless of the race and the result on the board, that’s a moment that you’re never, ever going to forget. The rest of your life, it’s going to be that girl shaking my shoulder like ‘Come on, get up.’ And I really hope she’s okay. And I know that she’s young and she’s going to have so many more opportunities. And being such a good human being, she’s going to go so far.”"

Event officials should start ushering runners off the track when they are about the be lapped. You have no business being in a race where an entire lead pack passes you. It's really frustrating as a viewer watching these JV athletes impede the actual race, and it must be even more frustrating for the athletes who get put in bad position because they're about to lap some slow poke who has no business running in an olympic final.

Why are 17 minute 5k runners in the olympics? We see high school girls in the states run those kind of times, and they are nowhere near olympic caliber runners.

SOmething Something wrote:

Event officials should start ushering runners off the track when they are about the be lapped. You have no business being in a race where an entire lead pack passes you. It's really frustrating as a viewer watching these JV athletes impede the actual race, and it must be even more frustrating for the athletes who get put in bad position because they're about to lap some slow poke who has no business running in an olympic final.

Why are 17 minute 5k runners in the olympics? We see high school girls in the states run those kind of times, and they are nowhere near olympic caliber runners.

+1 This is the real story, not who tripped over whom. I don't even blame the lapped runner. She was out of her league, being lapped twice by Ayana, then stopped early, clearly not knowing she had one more lap to run. The IOC used this girl to prove some point, and she ended up causing a collision that injured at least two runners. Classic case of placing agenda over people. This is the IOC's fault.

Bleu wrote:

I thought it was an IAAF rule that lapped runners had to move out. Don't some meets require athletes to leave the track? This happened I the men's race as well.

What made you think that?

And if you saw it in the men's race and there were no DQs what made you still think this?

sdfsdfsdfsdfsdf wrote:

Dr. Smith wrote:

I usually hate those dramatic and emotional moments of courage (cough-Montano-cough) but seeing what her knee did, and hearing how she helped get Hamblin going again, I'm actually moved. D'Agostino gained a fan today.

Yeah, I also only believe in physical pain and think that emotional pain is just something Montano faked to try to gain sympathy.

I also thought it was really annoying that Montano made us watch her suffer for an entire 45 seconds, while Abbey D'Agostino was gracious and only made us watch for 7 minutes of her in agony.

D'Agostino not playing the emotional victim, crying and whining and falling over in anguish but rather in actual physical pain is part of why I appreciate this. Sorry if that offends you. Actually no, I'm not.

I get that the Chadite/Chadian/Chadese/Chadosian was one of these "universality" athletes, but maybe its time to re-think that policy, or maybe think about limiting which events they can run in. Maybe limit them to the 800 and shorter, at most the 1500. You shouldn't be getting lapped in a 5000, at any level. If you are, you don't belong at that level.

Well put + totally agree. Yet another way in which the IOC just, um, you know, sucks.

No shortcuts wrote:

[quote]SOmething Something wrote:

The IOC used this girl to prove some point, and she ended up causing a collision that injured at least two runners. Classic case of placing agenda over people. This is the IOC's fault.

I agree ! They did place an agenda over people - the agenda that includes the Olympic Credo. The Olympics are about competition, even if some athletes are woefully out of their league. The Olympics are not about winning, despite what most people think. The problem isn't that there are slow runners in the race, the problem is that they either weren't informed or are too inexperienced to move out of lane 1 when being lapped. The officials need to make it very clear to every runner in 1500 and above that if you are about to be lapped, it is your responsibility to move out and not impede the runners lapping you. Failure to do so shall result in you being DQd and removed from the track. I actually saw most of the runners being lapped in men's 10K move out to lanes 2 and 3 when being lapped. None of the women in the 10K did though.

maybe maybe not wrote:

I saw her run 15 x 400 three days before she headed to RIO, so if she was hurt, she was hiding it well.

That's interesting. My understanding was that her training had been pretty limited by it. Maybe it wasn't as bad as I thought.

I think it's a shame that a slower runner caused the accident and faster runners ended up injured. I don't think that completely excluding these slower runners who are offering hope and inspiration to others is the solution though. I think rules need to be put into place which require runners who are about to be lapped to move into lane 4 or farther to allow the faster runners to past without impedance. There are enough old geezer race officials around the track watching other things, they should warn and require slower runners to move outside as well.

SOmething Something wrote:

Event officials should start ushering runners off the track when they are about the be lapped. You have no business being in a race where an entire lead pack passes you. It's really frustrating as a viewer watching these JV athletes impede the actual race, and it must be even more frustrating for the athletes who get put in bad position because they're about to lap some slow poke who has no business running in an olympic final.

Why are 17 minute 5k runners in the olympics? We see high school girls in the states run those kind of times, and they are nowhere near olympic caliber runners.

Actually they are olympic caliber runners. Olympic caliber just isn't very high in a lot of countries.

I am not sure if I would have wanted to see people running national records in the 10k being pulled off the track and having the runners run wide doesn't really work either.

TrackB0t wrote:

Actually they are olympic caliber runners. Olympic caliber just isn't very high in a lot of countries.

I am not sure if I would have wanted to see people running national records in the 10k being pulled off the track and having the runners run wide doesn't really work either.

Why doesn't having slower/lapped runners run wide work? How often is a 5k or 10k bunched up wider than lane 4 or 5... even down the final stretch?

I would think it would be better to have the lap runners on the inside where you know where they are, just like any other runner in the race. It seems more confusing to me to have some out and some in. Back when I was a young man, in some 6 mile/10k races if you were lapped you were out. It was probably a lap counting technique.

Igy

If you watch the later footage, you'll see Hamblin (and I think D'Agostino) running in at least lane 2, so they at least were doing it right.

I don't have a lot of experience in being lapped (it's unlikely to happen in a 100m ;) ), but I always understood that you were supposed to stay as close as possible to the rail. I saw another lapped runner later in the race running almost on the outside of lane 1, which seems like the worst of both worlds.

Drama.

Forced drama.

Annoying drama.

you walked into this one wrote:

Give her some cortisone, she'll be fine.

But seriously, that's a shame. I'm a big fan of the D.

You know nothing about anatomy.

Aren't you the idiot who said Murphy is a "sophmore"?

Looking closely at the video, I do think that D'A "clipped" Hamblin, obviously unintentionally. After that, Hamblin lurches forward, touching but fortunately not harming another runner.

And both runners acquitted themselves so admirably after that.