Me, I would have just slowed down... to a walk if necessary... and squeezed by to continue my run. It would have added maybe 3 seconds to my total run time.
Me, I would have just slowed down... to a walk if necessary... and squeezed by to continue my run. It would have added maybe 3 seconds to my total run time.
IT Guy wrote:
frank charles wrote:I'm OK with that. I'm 52 BTW.
Even worse. You should know better.
IT Guy is right, you are a prick. And you should know better. You are a loser. There is never any excuse for a guy to hit, run into or otherwise initiate a physical altercation with a female. You could really hurt someone. Buck it up next time, stop and ask the person if they need help. It's not like you're training for the olympics, nationals or worlds.
Lack of courtesy wrote:
This is actually a growing problem. More and more I encounter people who do not move over for others. Not just when I'm running, but in general. It's in malls, sidewalks and even trails. People will see me, see me move over as far as I can, but they will not move over when they have the room to do so. I don't understand why it's happening so much now, it makes no sense and it's a real problem. I have bumped people, had to physically move people, come to a dead stop and stare down people. Even she I say things like "on your right" some people just won't move. It's crazy.
I don't know what the answer is, you can't make someone courteous. I think if someone refuses to move over, and is putting you in a dangerous situation ( having to leave the sidewalk into traffic) then bumping her was was ok. Sometimes I think if these people were bumped more often they'd learn to start being polite and behaving like a normal courteous person. Just move over.
^This. People are just self-centered and rude. "How dare some try-hard runner expect ME to move over and interrupt MY leisurely stroll for 10 seconds so that they can pass."
Lack of courtesy wrote:
This is actually a growing problem. More and more I encounter people who do not move over for others. Not just when I'm running, but in general. It's in malls, sidewalks and even trails. People will see me, see me move over as far as I can, but they will not move over when they have the room to do so. I don't understand why it's happening so much now, it makes no sense and it's a real problem. I have bumped people, had to physically move people, come to a dead stop and stare down people. Even she I say things like "on your right" some people just won't move. It's crazy.
I don't know what the answer is, you can't make someone courteous. I think if someone refuses to move over, and is putting you in a dangerous situation ( having to leave the sidewalk into traffic) then bumping her was was ok. Sometimes I think if these people were bumped more often they'd learn to start being polite and behaving like a normal courteous person. Just move over.
Try walking around with a stick with a big wad of dog shjt on the end and see if they still don't get out of your way.
Being kind makes us enormously vulnerable to those who are not.
Be kind anyway.
If you were RIPPEd, JACKED and SHREDDED she would have stepped aside. Instead you were a noodly skinnyfat not worth noticing much less taking a detour for.
Time to get after the powercleans and burpees for MASSIVE GAINZ
Oh yeah, thread is still WORTHLESS WITHOUT PICS.
While I would never intentionally bump into someone, I have "slimmed" people before accidentally.
I run on a popular bike path. There is a stretch with a guard rail on one side and a hedgerow of thorny bushes on the other. Often there are women who walk shoulder to shoulder, taking up the whole path, and usually they wear headphones and can't hear me approach. So I try to slip around them and occasionally our arms touch. When it's hot and I'm sweating a ton they get slimmed. I don't do it on purpose, though. Seems like this happens once a year.
Frank, not only do you never put your shoulder into a woman, but you also stop and ask if you can help her with her flat tire. You're a man. That is your responsibility.
Complete strangers carrying a child in the rain last night asked me where their hotel was--they'd taken a taxi to visit a friend and got lost trying to walk back). I was in the middle of my run and trying to find a bathroom. I stopped, looked at their hotel brochure and found the address, didn't know it, so ran on, asked a couple with a map, they didn't know, I ran on and found a map and found the location. It was raining but I turned around and ran as fast as I could back in the direction they were. I ran another two miles looking for them. They were not to be seen and I was soaked because I was staying on the sidewalk to try to help them out (I have kids, so I know the feeling). That is the minimum that you do. You help people push their cars off the road when they stall. You help out when you can. Be a man.
you stop, say excuse me, etc. your life is better when you are decent and kind
You were in the wrong. Don't run in crowded areas and expect to not be stopped every once in a while.
I would have done what you did. She had no excuse to not move over, since even a few inches would have been enough to avoid contact. I know what you mean: you didn't go out of your way to seek contact, but you braced for it when it became inevitable. That said, just because I would have done it doesn't mean that it's the "right" thing to do.
On another note, I think you did a good job explaining the story and anyone on this thread who doesn't understand what you're saying is an idiot. Hooray for internet forums!
jjjjjj wrote:
Complete strangers carrying a child in the rain last night asked me where their hotel was--they'd taken a taxi to visit a friend and got lost trying to walk back). I was in the middle of my run and trying to find a bathroom. I stopped, looked at their hotel brochure and found the address, didn't know it, so ran on, asked a couple with a map, they didn't know, I ran on and found a map and found the location. It was raining but I turned around and ran as fast as I could back in the direction they were. I ran another two miles looking for them. They were not to be seen and I was soaked because I was staying on the sidewalk to try to help them out (I have kids, so I know the feeling). That is the minimum that you do. You help people push their cars off the road when they stall. You help out when you can. Be a man.
You're a cvnt.
If he's wrong for not moving out of her way, then she's is wrong for not moving out of his way.
You people make no sense.
Oh! She gets a pass because she has a vagina.
Here's the plot twist. She has no ovaries. She has no uterus. But she does have internal testes.
OpenWater wrote:
Being kind makes us enormously vulnerable to those who are not.
Be kind anyway.
^ This. Been running single track trails and hike/bike paths in Korea for 2 years now while on an assignment with the company. Talk about people not giving way, making room, or walking/riding on whatever side they feel like.
Kill them with kindness...
Just stop and re tie your laces in the middle of the path.
frank charles wrote:
I have a long stretch on a busy road where there is zero shoulder. I was running on the edge of the sidewalk and a woman was pushing a bike in the middle of the sidewalk and made no effort to move over and make room for both of us (there was plenty of room).
Normally I would hop out into the road, but this time there were two lanes of oncoming cars, I wasn't about to jump in front of the cars, there was zero road shoulder and I'm sure it would have freaked out the drivers (not enough room for cars and a runner on the road).
So I held my ground on the edge of the sidewalk but braced my shoulder and laid a pretty good bump into her. Felt a little bad, but WTF, if she's not going to move over she deserved it.
Was I in the right or wrong?
You did what you had to do. No way you could have stopped for 3 seconds. You were ON A RUN for God's sake.
nopnopnop wrote:
Just stop and re tie your laces in the middle of the path.
Close!
There is a very decent middle ground. That is to stop and hold your ground. Do not take more than a small share of the sidewalk but for someone else to claim all of it they must make contact with you, a non-moving object. I live near downtown of a smaller affluent community and face this often. 3-4 wide across the sidewalk with no intention of leaving others a sliver. Stop, hold your ground, and it is on them to make room or collide. I am hopeful that it sends a message to share, but I doubt it does, however, it does make me feel better.
I was running on this running path one day and this couple was running side by side which happens sometimes but usually the person who's blocking the incoming runner moves out of the way. On the side of the path, there's gravel, so you can theoretically run on it but the running path is where people run.
The boyfriend/husband was running on my side of the trail, saw me a mile away but chose not to move. What happened is that be bumped each other chest against chest because I assumed he would move at the last second and he didn't. Some people are just douches...