Look The wrote:
Why would you be a conservative? Why would you want to do that?
It's a reasoned, thoughtful choice. Being a liberal is the most easy, unthinking, gutless decision you can make.
Look The wrote:
Why would you be a conservative? Why would you want to do that?
It's a reasoned, thoughtful choice. Being a liberal is the most easy, unthinking, gutless decision you can make.
Ugh..
Colorado Springs is literally the worst town in college. Beautiful setting that is squandered by small minded, arrogant people who refuse to recognize they actually live in a city of over a half a million. Worse traffic than Denver- only 1 interstate goes through the city and everyone is on it. Sprawl everywhere. No controls on growth or planning. A laughable "downtown". A useless airport.
SEDave wrote:
I'm curious how you're calling Fort Collins (1:15 drive) a suburb of Denver, and not calling Boulder (35 min drive) one?
Good question. Not a perfect answer, but I just think of Boulder as its own attractive entity- stronger on its own than Ft. Collins.
After this statement, you have no credibility.
MeColorado wrote:
SEDave wrote:I'm curious how you're calling Fort Collins (1:15 drive) a suburb of Denver, and not calling Boulder (35 min drive) one?
Good question. Not a perfect answer, but I just think of Boulder as its own attractive entity- stronger on its own than Ft. Collins.
the real denverican wrote:
MeColorado wrote:Denver- I hated. Nothing unique to see. But have to deal with traffic. Lots of bums & not real clean.
Denver suburbs- Ft. Collins, Longmont & others- I loved them all. Nice people. Safe. Clean. ONLY downfall was far from mountains.
CO Springs- Huge potential. Things to do. Lots of good people. But lots of rift raft too. (BTW, I'm even conservative). Lots of running possibilities.
Boulder- Liked a lot. Again, I'm conservative, Boulder can be liberal. But long as they're not obnoxious about it- I'm good. Running culture stands out. Clean. None of the rift raft of CO Springs.
Woodland Park- Loved it. A gem. Smaller city that packs a huge punch. Safe, clean, people are nice w/ some spirit. Rampart Resevoir Rd has rolling hills @ 9,300 ft for fantastically challenging runs. 8,300 ft base elevation. 20 mins from big city CO Springs. ONLY downfall, is high elevation makes it a little colder.
Breckenridge, Frisco, Leadville- The very high altitude cities 9,300 to 10,400 ft). I'd rank them in this listed order. Breckinridge is a great resort town, with a great downtown & restaurants. People love being there. Frisco has the best mountain views, but not as many things to do vs Breckenridge. Leadville has altitude, nice people & nothing else. Literally zero to do. Plus, looks run down with old buildings & chipping paint.
Overall- I like CO. Sunny & many choices. My favorite cities are Boulder & Woodland Park. Breckenridge is great- but only to visit. The Denver suburbs are great, but too far from the mountains.
He said he's conservative so I will translate this for you..
Denver: Has lots of black people and hispanics = not nice or clean
Denver Suburbs: fairly white and middle class = nice people
Colorado Springs= Super white and conservative= yay awesome and "good" people (if you know what he means)
Boulder: liberal but white liberal = I can tolerate it
Woodland Park: white, upper class= a "gem" but not a colored gem, it's like a diamond
Breckenridge= white and the wealthiest of the 3 therefore the best, Frisco literally next to Breck but some minorities exist there, so not as good and Leadville= I drove through saw a hippe = the worst.
Actually, you got it pretty close... except CO Springs has 16% hispanics. I've lived, worked in diversity many years. No more, as it usually has some of the *wrong* diversity. Years of unpleasant experience & now pleasant experience aren't wrong.
Got smart wrote:
Look The wrote:Why would you be a conservative? Why would you want to do that?
It's a reasoned, thoughtful choice. Being a liberal is the most easy, unthinking, gutless decision you can make.
So many liberals are at the stage of drunkeness 2-3X per week, hangovers, trying to find themselves & getting a kick out of being liberal.
If a person in their heart's truly liberal- more power to them. Too often, it's a phase & they're no longer liberal after some years.
assuming that translates to reality or everyone's experience is wrong but is quite typical for the average conservative.
MeColorado wrote:
Years of unpleasant experience & now pleasant experience aren't wrong.
assuming that translates to reality or everyone's experience is wrong but is quite typical for the average conservative.
(as is visiting a state for 2 mos and thinking you're the expert. Go back to Texas, please)
Anyone have any insight on Evergreen or the surrounding towns?
Angry Willy wrote:
After this statement, you have no credibility.
MeColorado wrote:Good question. Not a perfect answer, but I just think of Boulder as its own attractive entity- stronger on its own than Ft. Collins.
I have to agree. There is a big difference between actually living somewhere and just visiting for a few days. Seems like you just went off of your preconceived notions about Boulder going in.
They're both college towns that have expanded and have their own thing going on.
Mr. Obvious wrote:
Where's the best bud?
no bud, only coors
Evergreen is a cool town with lots of good running trails around it (Lair o' the Bear, Three Sisters, Bergen Peak, pretty much all of the mount evans SWA). It isn't cheap, though. I used to train up there 25 years ago. A lot has changed up there (all the hippies have been replaced by yuppies), but the trails are still pretty much the same.
Everyone in Colorado has been saying shit every decade like the hippies have been replaced by the yuppies. By definition, hippies must have been there at some point. What year was it? 60s? 1980s, mid 90s? Who are these mysteriously cool people?
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