Been in different parts of Colorado now for 2 months. My take on the different cities.

I moved to COS right before Christmas. Living up in the North end of town I don't see much riff raff but when you get down to Manitou things get a little seedy; unfortunately that is where all the good trail running is. I'm spending almost 3 hours a week driving back and forth trying to get ready for the Ascent next month.

You are an idiot to pigeonhole yourself as a conservative or liberal. Every city has its share of poor and homeless. You are either a pretty good troll or a huge dbag. I guess CO dodged a bullet!

Flamethrower wrote:

You are an idiot to pigeonhole yourself as a conservative or liberal. Every city has its share of poor and homeless. You are either a pretty good troll or a huge dbag. I guess CO dodged a bullet!

Reread. I said being liberal or conservative didn't matter, which you copied. So what are you talking about?

You forgot to mention: Frisco one the inaugural Summer Tracktown Series debut! (Though some say Vin rigged the result). In my mined I don't see any downside, despot what people may say.

Can anyone give an opinion on year round living in Vail?

What's a rift raft? Some kind of hippy boat?

Please stay in these areas in the future and do not venture into any of the less populated areas of colorado, thank you. Enjoy your fvcking ski rack and Patagonia puffy on the front range

High and mighty wrote:

Please stay in these areas in the future and do not venture into any of the less populated areas of colorado, thank you. Enjoy your fvcking ski rack and Patagonia puffy on the front range

I'm a native and I'm better than you.

Even Boulder and Woodland Park are nothing compared to the ethereal beauty of Houston.

Why would you be a conservative? Why would you want to do that?

Hhjjjjj wrote:

Can anyone give an opinion on year round living in Vail?

I've lived in the Vail valley for 35 years. it's not a cheap place to live at all! - but there are options in the valley that are somewhat reasonable. Vail is an Awesome place to train! 8000' elevation - & up. Endless trails to train on - jeep trails & singletracks. Some of the best Mtn runners have trained here as well as Frank Shorter before the '72 Olympics. There's a good racing series. Great mtn biking & road biking also. I think it has the best selection of trails to train on in the state.

Leadville is run down, consisting of old buildings with chipping paint. That's because it's a real town, with a soul. Aside from about 2 or 3 blocks in Frisco and Breckenridge-which were built in 1880-most of the rest was built in the last 30 or 40 years. It's Disneyland "frontier mining town." Summit County had 3000 people in 1980--now it has 30,000-many of whom are part time or weekend residents.

Those clerks at the nice hotels-those maids, those waiters and waitresses and busboys- they live in Leadville or Kremmling because Summit County is filled with tourists and second home owners to the point where working people cannot afford to live there.

Preferring Summit County's activities over what can be found in Leadville says more about you, than about the three communities referenced.

Hhjjjjj wrote:

Can anyone give an opinion on year round living in Vail?

I almost forgot - Vail also has the best & largest ski area in Colorado. It's expensive ( $175/day last yr), but season passes are @ $800 & many places give a free pass if you work the season. There is also decent xc skiing here, but other towns have better xc skiing ( Steamboat Springs, Aspen, Breckenridge). It's easy to find a job here, especially for the ski season.

Hhjjjjj wrote:

Can anyone give an opinion on year round living in Vail?

Pros to Vail are proximity to Denver/DIA, cheap ski pass and proximity to pass mountains, higher number of jobs in a 30min radius. Otherwise you have a dense, fake euro town with an interstate highway running through it. Winter weekends are crazy busy and has long lift lines.

I loved on Summit County and skied Vail about 50 days. In my

Opinion, there are more enjoyable towns to live in. I've been in the Aspen area for 5 years. The pros to the Aspen area have been a much more cohesive community, less seasonal ups/downs regarding things to do and jobs, less people, more space. Other "ski" towns in CO will be somewhere on the middle. Only Breck will have similar numbers of people.

Decent XC Skiing????Vail's Nordic center is a pancake flat golf course, with an Interstate Highway 100 yards away. I'm not even sure there's a tree on the place.I do concur regarding Vail Mountain. It is the best alpine ski area in the state, and perhaps the world.

downhill runner wrote:

Hhjjjjj wrote:

Can anyone give an opinion on year round living in Vail?

I almost forgot - Vail also has the best & largest ski area in Colorado. It's expensive ( $175/day last yr), but season passes are @ $800 & many places give a free pass if you work the season. There is also decent xc skiing here, but other towns have better xc skiing ( Steamboat Springs, Aspen, Breckenridge). It's easy to find a job here, especially for the ski season.

Thanks for the input. I asked because Vail is my favorite ski resort as a Floridian, and I would consider living there one day if my financial situation allows. However, I know the experience living somewhere can be much different than coming for a week as a tourist.

Leadville Native wrote:

I do concur regarding Vail Mountain. It is the best alpine ski area in the state, and perhaps the world.

Ehhhh, Vail is a great mountain, but being the "best" depends on what you want. Tons of intermediate terrain and very approachable, low consequence expert terrain? Yes. Fancy lodges and side amenities? Yes.

But then there's the lift lines, traffic getting there, finding/cost of parking, type of clientele and did I mention left lines on a good day?

For a single mountain, Jackson Hole blows it away for the skiing and lack of stress. For a town, Aspen has better skiing across four mountains and no lift lines. Worldwide, Whistler makes Vail look somewhat pedantic.

/ski rant (Vails not a bad place)

Could you elaborate on Colorado Springs? I'm planning a trip to Colorado with my wife and baby for fun. Looking for easy hiking, good food/drinks, nice places to hang out. Thinking around September/October. Colorado Springs was at the top of our list.

Thanks!

I would go to vail/ aspen over the springs for vacation any day. Colorado springs is ok, but the mountain resort towns are better for a nice trip and have some of the best restaurants.