JMS3 wrote:
Who would even take the time to type all of this out? It was painful reading it.
Totally agree. Just nonsense, a word salad.
JMS3 wrote:
Who would even take the time to type all of this out? It was painful reading it.
Totally agree. Just nonsense, a word salad.
sufferinfools wrote:
JMS3 wrote:Who would even take the time to type all of this out? It was painful reading it.
Totally agree. Just nonsense, a word salad.
you guys find hard facing truths.
How many runners are there in the world? 200,000,000 That's my guess two hundred million.
We don't need your silly test to find out who has talent. All they have to do is train and race.
You're welcome.
facing truths wrote:
How many runners are there in the world? 200,000,000 That's my guess two hundred million.
We don't need your silly test to find out who has talent. All they have to do is train and race.
You're welcome.
wow!!!someone is very angry about that.
i just typed out to be very generous and patient.
you need to calm down yourself.
facing truths wrote:
How many runners are there in the world? 200,000,000 That's my guess two hundred million.
We don't need your silly test to find out who has talent. All they have to do is train and race.
You're welcome.
this guide is better for coaches than hobbie joggers like you, ok?
let discuss more in-depths.
I'm not angry. Why would you think your juvenile opinsions make me angry?
does anybody have another version of pbs in retrospect to performances with minimal training?
"Hobbie joggers" are the only people sitting on the couch for six months.
"Coaches" hanging around looking for people who have been sitting on the couch for six months don't have jobs, so they aren't coaches.
End of story.
so let say to break a 26min 10k barrier, he needs to break 30 min on 25 mpw first within months, agree?
This 4 month long test is certainly better than the combination of on the spot genetic and physiological tests currently available. Well done.
Dude, this stuff is golden!Why are you sharing this for free on LRC, when you could be making big $$$ charging people to read it.Someone's probably already stealing your ideas and putting them into a book - maybe even a patent.
talentspot wrote:
to identify talents, you cant make a genetic test on vo2max, lactate threshold as it costs quite expensively when a coach is spoting talents.
a brand-new assessment tool has already been developed for spotting freshman potentials.
your baseline fitness and responsiveness to training determine how you perform in a 10k test as few months training ends.
assessment criteria:
1. the runner is honest and not trolling.
2. the runner has just been off the couch and does not participate berforehand SOCCER/SWIMMING/HIKING or other activities that Favors any growth of baseline aerobic capacity . This runner is mostly sedentary.
3. the runner doesnt have a history of training for consistent years.
4. if the runner has trained for a few months before, this runner has to rest up long enough to untrained state which usually takes more than 6 months rest.
5. the runner is not overweight when started training and healthy.
5. the runner is training properly and not injuried.
the duration of training is 4 months since 4 months is enough for capillarization and musle growth. it is a point where things start to plateau up at first and then 1 years
the mileage chosen for assessment is 25 mpw (40k every week) because it is the point where scientists proposed aerobic power growing up decently and enough for developing certain running economy and building up a primitive base for improved performances. the next point is 50 mpw.
assessment process:
in the week off the couch, coach should administer moderate jogging training until first month ends and up to 13mpw.
in the second month coach should gradually build up to 20 mpw with easy runs and tempo runs ,
to the third month coach should build up 20 mpw with the same porgramme Once third month ends with the fourth month starting, coach should add up intervals or other more aggressive training until fourth month ends.
up to 4 months of training, the coach should give the runner a 10k test.
below times are indicator of potential as a freshman runner has been training for 4 months already.
from couch to 4 months ends:
from 0 to 25 mpw (40k)
37mins 10k> 32or33 min 10k potential
sub 35min 10k>sub30 min 10k potential
sub 32 min 10k>around 27 min 10k potential
sub 30 min 10k> workd record potential
Wow really? wrote:
This 4 month long test is certainly better than the combination of on the spot genetic and physiological tests currently available. Well done.
i am not here to be throned and praised. i am just asking for modification and discussions.
Perusing this board last night, as I often do, I stumbled upon your memo. I almost always find something amazing here, and have made a habit of printing out the very best material. The pile of pages is naturally quite large--but let me just say that your write-up went right to the top of the stack. I read it, and read it again, and spent the following hour pondering its brilliance. This methodology is simply groundbreaking. I am duly impressed by your keen insights into running physiology.
I represent a small program in the northwest US and I would love to engage you in a consultant capacity. Your out of the box thinking is sure to bring only the best runners to my door. What is your rate for a six month relationship?
Please note that I would like a slight modification to your plan. If you can inject a small amount of special "vitamin" into your test runners (I will provide you with all necessary supplies), we can better assess their abilities to withstand the true rigors of my special methodology.
Look forward to working with you!
kid: "hey i'd like to join the xc team"
coach: "Sure, but I see you've been doing some hiking. I'll need you to sit on the couch for the next 6 months so I can properly asses your talents and potentials"
good thread, i needed a fun one this morning.
I got off the couch and ran a marathon one morning. It felt so good that I did again after work. And then again the next two mornings.
Then I started running across the USA.
And I realized my greatest potential was to sit in the RV and receive loads of sausage everyday from Dustbin and Michael Spienchter.
Could your test have predicted that?
1 2 3 green wrote:
kid: "hey i'd like to join the xc team"
coach: "Sure, but I see you've been doing some hiking. I'll need you to sit on the couch for the next 6 months so I can properly asses your talents and potentials"
good thread, i needed a fun one this morning.
so this guide is just for new beginners, ok?
1 2 3 green wrote:
kid: "hey i'd like to join the xc team"
coach: "Sure, but I see you've been doing some hiking. I'll need you to sit on the couch for the next 6 months so I can properly asses your talents and potentials"
good thread, i needed a fun one this morning.
so this guide is just for new beginners, ok?
1. Get off the couch to run 1500 meter time trial
2. Subtract 10-20 seconds (ego adjustment)
3. Post thread on LRC. I just ran X:XX completely untrained, what's my potential?
4. Read responses.
5. Go back to the couch devastated.
That's Great! Thanks for posting!
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