No, you haven't realy answered the question. Anyone can learn cycling tactics.
The physiological difference is in what the feet and ankles are doing. You don't pronate much on a bike. In running, you pronate a lot. Big difference.
No, you haven't realy answered the question. Anyone can learn cycling tactics.
The physiological difference is in what the feet and ankles are doing. You don't pronate much on a bike. In running, you pronate a lot. Big difference.
Keychain go jangalang wrote:
bike run wrote:Why is it that pro runners and pro cyclist are often not very good at the other sport. It seems like low weight, good cardio system and leg strength are the three things most important to both. How are they so different?
Coordination. Running is a SKILL. You can have the engine and the build, but if you don't have a smooth, powerful, efficient stride, you're screwed. Thus best to hop on a bike where an efficient path of motion for your legs is set by the constraints of the machine.
Cycling is equally skill dependent. A highly skilled bike handler would crush a more aerobically fit biker in criteriums, hilly road races with a big pack, and especially in mountain bike races. I've seen it happen over and over again. Years ago we had a 2:20 marathoner join our team. He could ride hard straight, but he wasted a ton of effort on tricky courses. It can take years to develop quality cycling skills. Just like with running.
consistency wrote:
Keychain go jangalang wrote:Coordination. Running is a SKILL. You can have the engine and the build, but if you don't have a smooth, powerful, efficient stride, you're screwed. Thus best to hop on a bike where an efficient path of motion for your legs is set by the constraints of the machine.
Cycling is equally skill dependent. A highly skilled bike handler would crush a more aerobically fit biker in criteriums, hilly road races with a big pack, and especially in mountain bike races. I've seen it happen over and over again. Years ago we had a 2:20 marathoner join our team. He could ride hard straight, but he wasted a ton of effort on tricky courses. It can take years to develop quality cycling skills. Just like with running.
The skill is you controlling a machine, not you controlling the efficient movement of your limbs.
The difference is you can learn to cycle. Anyone. But if god gave you two left feet or a horrible hitch in your stride, you ain't learning to be a smooth and powerful runner.
That 220 marathoner can learn how to handle a bike, but I doubt the cyclists could hop of the bike and "learn" to run 220. They don't have the running skill required (no matter how great their vo2 max or whatever is). They'll look like fish out of water, which is probably why they took up cycling in the first place.
Specificity.
Bicycle.
Small ballin wrote:
That 220 marathoner can learn how to handle a bike, but I doubt the cyclists could hop of the bike and "learn" to run 220. They don't have the running skill required (no matter how great their vo2 max or whatever is). They'll look like fish out of water, which is probably why they took up cycling in the first place.
You underestimate how difficult it is to handle a bike in race conditions.
Someone named 4 pros who were runners first, but has there ever been a cyclist to become a pro runner? I'm curious how long it took those guys to learn bike handling.
Well, if your a great cyclist you bike. If you are a great runner, you run. If you are average at both...then you do duathlons and if you can swim, triathlons..lol...but there is some truth to it. I do both! Cycling is much much easier on body.
I also think its just focus. Cyclists focus on biking and runners on running.
I'm always impressed by watching triathletes compete in the Ironman.
Russell westbrook on a farm wrote:
Matthew Busche- 9:08 steeple
Jake Sitler- 9:16 steeple
Bryan Lewis- 9:01 steeple
Tom Zirbel- 14xsome 5k
Zirbel is a convicted doper. Should be banned for life.
no answer wrote:
No one has really answered this question. I would like to know as well. The only person who attempted to answer got it wrong because the best cyclist in the world is from Kenya.
You clearly don't understand cycling if that's the idea you're proffering.
Illinoisphotographer wrote:
Another thing that isn't covered is sustained heart rate differences between the sports.
I read somewhere that the elite marathoners run at around 85-89% of max HR during their marathon. I'd assume that's around 170-180bpm.
Bikers -- Much lower. Froome's average heart rate during climbs is around 160bpm, which would probably make his average during flatter stages around 140-150.
Seriously, dude? A marathon is 2 hours and change. Grand Tour Stages are 4-6 hours. Every day (minus two rest days). For three weeks!
The obvious answer is, pro cyclist race, pro runners train, get injured, cancel race, then start training again.