How much do you drink?

Damn Junior! Better throw in a rage management course to go with the remedial English comprehension session. Seems like you're little vodka freakout might have done some lasting damage....

And I did respond to the part you were responding to, I just didn't quote it. Guess that's where you got lost. That's where the English comprehension skills are really gonna improve you life. You're gonna love it. Anyway, once more for the kid in the back with the open mouth:

"No worse, and a hell of a lot more enjoyable, than about 90% of the shit people throw down their holes in the normal course of a day."

As in, a few drinks, like a few glasses of wine, some beer or a few mixed drinks, NOT, REPEAT, NOT a half bottle of vodka. Go back and read what I wrote. I made it very clear I was only talking about a few drinks not "gross alcohol abuse or getting sloshed "

Yes alcohol, like a lot of things in this scary grown-up world, can be dangerous when used inappropriately, but it doesn't mean they're dangerous when used the right way. Got it?

This is worthless, you're either interested in pursuing some narrow argument or are way too slow on the uptake. Out.

You must be book smart. The logic in your first quote doesn’t quite cut the mustard.

It’s good that you have a story …

You’re right I’m not a serious runner anymore, but I once was and I bet our PR’s are fairly close.

I prob. average over the course of a year 1-2 beers a week, max, and once in a while a night of several glasses of wine. There is the occassional party I have here at our house--hey, I'm not driving--where I do go a bit overboard and hate light & noise the next morning. Ugghh.

Recap of conversation:

You said, "Alcohol is no worse for you than 90% of what you put in your body."

I said bullshit and proved you wrong, and you haven't responded.

Then, you claim you responded to what I said, when you didn't. You insulted my comprehension skills. Original.

I realize that you can get away with alcohol use if you are responsible. I'm just saying that it's very dangerous. You seem to disagree (although I know you really don't, you just can't back down from your argument now). Now, I will propose again, that you drink half a bottle of vodka in 30 minutes. I will eat as much as you want me to eat of anything that I put in my body. The worst thing I can think of is a Big Mac. So, I eat 5 Big Macs, you drink half a bottle of vodka in thirty minutes, and I'll see you in hell.

It doesn't take 24 hours. It takes about one hour per one drink you inhale. Now if you drink the equivilant of around 168 drinks, than you can kiss the drink goodbye; And the rest of your life for that matter.

wondering wrote:

"The closest thing that I did was a couple of salt tablets before a big race. I nearly died from it."

yea, thats really taking care of yourself. i'd rather run fractions of a second slower in my races because of drinking some beers (which i dont even believe to be true) than be so obsessive about my running that i risk far more serious damage to myself by taking salt tablets before racing.

sounds like you were a serious runner, but also a serious idiot. a 3.9GPA doesnt do you much good if you're dead.

Back in the day, the idea was to take salt on a hot day if you were going to race. The theory being that when you take salt you retain more water, hence are better hydrated and better prepared for the heat. So I was just doing what the "experts" suggested.

The "experts" later realized that the reason you retain more water in order lower the salt concentration of the intercellular fluid. Since cell membranes are semipermeable, your cells lose fluid and die.

Whoops, meant week.

bootsy wrote:

guinness is good for you.... high in fiber, low in calories and fat.... great sorce of iron and ribofl. 2 pints a day, and you'll live to be 120... you have my word

I like how you think. Guinness isn't exactly a "hard" beer to drink either. I've persuaded a few buddies of mine to drink it who only drink Miller Lite and now they are all about the Guinness.

I've been working around 60 hours a week, and up to 65, over the past few weeks, but still mangage to get out to happy hour will some ladies/fellows from work. I probably consume 10 beers during the week, and about 20 to 25 beers on the weekend.

As long as the drinking doesn't take away from my work/running I won't change my habits. Life is good. I would like to run more though, I'm only at 65/week.

Just remember, Jesus turned water into wine.

Your quote is wrong and your comprehension skills speak for themselves. Stop. You're just embarrassing yourself. Read what I wrote. Your fixation with the half bottle of vodka is bizarre.

Referring to having a FEW drinks, I said "No worse, and a hell of a lot more enjoyable, than about 90% of the shit people throw down their holes in the normal course of a day." It's true and I stand by it.

Your responses have just been pathetic so far. I'm done responding to your ridiculousness.

d.d.d.: come on. What you said was incredibly inaccurate.

1. Many serious runners, such as Paula Radcliffe, etc enjoy drinking in moderation.

2. 'You know how long it takes for your liver to process just one beer? 24 hours' - don't supply us with flase information. In general, the liver can process one ounce of liquor (or one standard drink) in one hour. This is the medically accepted norm.

3. Three beers on Saturday ruining your Tuesday workout? Seven beers putting you out for a week? I don't know why I'm bothering to reply to this rubbish. Any doctor would laugh at all this (or be concerned about your lack of undertanding and attempt to enlighten us with information that's wrong).

Reading the last part of your post though, it looks like you're simply taking the piss...

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no serious runner drinks or does that whacky tobaccey. When yu drink your liver is busy processing alcohol instead of lactic acid. You know how long it takes for your liver to process just one beer? 24 hours. It takes 36 to process the hard stuff. Think about it, if you drink 3 beers on saturday night, you can kiss any gains from a tuesday workout goodbye. If you drink 7, you are out for a week. A long weekend in the off season can take years to recover from. How do I know this, a doctor told me.

Man it´s hard to be a runner. One long weekend and you are out for years. It seems like I have been out for my entire career. I believe you. Why wouldn´t I?

man you guys are wimps.

if you would like to drink go ahead. if you do not, then dont. Why the hell are people getting into an argument over this?

also I went to a D1 school. One of the best ever in one of the best conferences ever. Many of us, teammates and competitors alike, would get hammered at appropriate times.

I have proof, but I would rather have people just take my word for it.

I believe the medical evidence supports that a glass or two of wine...or a couple of beers is good for the heart. That can't be said for cheese, red meat, chips, candy, and many other food products.

For all of you that think binge drinking is ok, (I was one of you), then take a look at the brain scans of a 35 year old binge drinker. The brain looks like the surface of the moon, dark black circles interspresed amongst the white surface.

The problem is the drinking habit/lifestyle you pick up in college is hard to break afterward. If any of you have alcoholism in your family, like I did, I would stay away from it. For those of you who can truly take or leave alcohol then consider yourself lucky, there are many who can't.

When did drinking a couple glasses of wine become binge drinking?

In reply to the original question, I rarely drink. A couple times a year, I will drink 2 or 3 beers.

To Montavi, I'm not talking about a few glasses of wine over dinner with friends. I'm talking the "getting smashed on the weekends" lifestyle of many collegiates. This means, 8+ drinks in one sitting (although the techinical definition is 5+). Many people think they will leave this lifestyle once they graduate. They don't. Instead, they work like fiends Monday through Friday and then get smashed on Friday & Saturday. Do this every weekend for a few years and your brain will resemble a dalmation.

I found that i have fun when i drink, and i don't think that its a bad thing. when i was a competitive D1 runner from a big school in a big conference i chose not to drink during the season, unless we won conference or some other big occasion. inbetween seasons i would kick back and let loose a bit, and during the summer i would drink somewhat heavily (for me). while i didnt think it was good for my body to do that, i was having a blast doing so. as long as you can control it than there is nothing wrong with drinking as a runner. when i chose to drink i would get drunk because having a few beers never appealed to me. i think that people on this board who think alcohol is the devil need to relax.

Drink up my boy!