BREAKING:Jama Aden's hotel in Spain raided.

El Keniano wrote:

trollism wrote:

2 golds in London for the all conquering (and at that point, zero dope tested) Kenyans?

How many did GB get in track and field again? Just remind me.

Who topped the medals table last year in Beijing? Oh, and half of your Athletics golds in your home Olympics by one AlSal & Jamba Juice product. Take him out and there's no athletics in the UK. Do I think he's been protected by UKAD while on a full on smear war against others? You bet!

Every single one of your gold medallists have access to an array of PEDs, and NONE are tested regularly out of competition. Do I think most are dopers? You bet! At the end of the day it would be stupid of them not to given how easy it is to get away with it in Kenya.

Maybe.

But after all Mo dealt with during the Al Sal thing, he'd have been absolutely insane to associate, in any way at all, with a sketchy coach .... Whether Mo was on the juice or not. If Mo knew Jama was dodgy (given Willis' comments, how could he not know), the question of WTF was Mo doing even going near Jama is a very real one.

agip wrote:

3Q 2015 summary:

Between October and December 2015, 2042 Tests were attempted on behalf of 41 National Governing

Bodies, International Federations and National Anti-Doping Organisations. Tests conducted during Quarter

3 included:

• Football Association 651 Tests

• World Rugby 312 Tests

• Rugby Football League 219 Tests

• British Cycling Federation 107 Tests

• UK Athletics 91 Tests

91 tests per quarter for the whole of UK Athletics. That's roughly the number of tests USADA did on NOP athletes.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

trollism wrote:

It's also weird because British sportspeople get tested a lot and Kenyans don't.

This claim keeps getting posted and there is no proof it is true or false. UKAD posts NO testing statistics. Zero.

What's the basis for your claim?

Adding some facts to the claim British sportspeople get tested a lot.

IAAF = international federation

UKA = national federation

We can be pretty confident these are all urinalysis.

Rugby and Football by far the most tested and sanctioned.

Q4 1-January to 31 March

225 missed tests

2015-Q4 IAAF 37 in-competition 49 out-of-competition.

2015-Q4 UKA 23 in-competition 117 out-of-competition

Q3 1-October to 31 December

137 missed tests

2015-Q3 IAAF 34 in-competition 0 (zero) out of competition.

2015-Q3 UKA 10 in-competition 81 out of competition.

Q2 1-July to 30-September.

199 missed tests...

2015-Q2 IAAF 44 in-competition 5 out of competition

2015-Q2 UKA 31 in-competition 86 out of competition

Q1 1-April to 30-June

109 missed tests

2015-Q1 IAAF 46 in-competition 56 out of competition

2015-Q1 UKA 19 in-competition 75 out of competition

Q2 and Q3 are very light on OOC testing. I don't know how big UKA's registered test pool is.

The link below tells me 2015 had 1445 meets.

The link below states 20,000 active athletes.

The facts suggest that perhaps UK track and field isn't getting "a lot" of testing.

Agree with this.

trollism wrote:

To be fair, Kenya competes in one small part of one sport and they still put the UK to 'shame' in terms of dope positives (and the UK is strong in many many sports.)

How many UK sub 2:08 marathoners are there exactly?

The US and UK dictating doping tests explains all the positives, Kenya, Russia etc, but not the US or UK, the most overly medicated countries in the world.

How strong exactly wrote:

trollism wrote:

To be fair, Kenya competes in one small part of one sport and they still put the UK to 'shame' in terms of dope positives (and the UK is strong in many many sports.)

How many UK sub 2:08 marathoners are there exactly?

The US and UK dictating doping tests explains all the positives, Kenya, Russia etc, but not the US or UK, the most overly medicated countries in the world.

Oh poor poverty stricken Kenya can't get access to the good shit like in the West 👌🏼

Loosen up the tinfoil hat.

Triumph of the Swill wrote:

The concern I raised goes along these lines: loads of athletes are doping - Russians, Africans, Brits, Yanks, Aussies, Chinese.... The IAAF, led by Anglo/US/Nike interests, specifically targets only certain groups of dopers, leaving their golden geese free to dope as before and get a way with it.

There is already a perception among a large segment of the desired public that Russians and Africans are dirty, and just tend to be that way by nature, whereas Brits and Americans are hard-working, upstanding, ethical athletes, and any Brit or Yank who gets busted is just a bad apple.

The rich whites in American have no problem taking drugs, along with their white UK friends Radcliffe and Coe.

Google translate

The Somali-Dutch marathon runner Abdi Nageeye who is friends with Farah, was also on the conscious photos. He knows Aden internships in Ethiopia, but has never walked in his schemes.

The Somali-Dutch marathon runner Abdi Nageeye

Against the athletics website Loose Lace he said Monday about the incident with Driouch. "We knew that boy. Only when he was gone from the group, we heard that he was suspended. I told him that when it resented and was angry with him. "

http://www.volkskrant.nl/sport/schippers-mogelijk-alsnog-atlete-van-het-jaar-2015~a4324925/

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

This claim keeps getting posted and there is no proof it is true or false. UKAD posts NO testing statistics. Zero.

What's the basis for your claim?

Adding some facts to the claim British sportspeople get tested a lot.

The facts suggest that perhaps UK track and field isn't getting "a lot" of testing.

I hope the UK focuses its testing firepower on potential medalists...if they do that, 91 tests isn't so small...eyeballing 2015 worlds, the UK won only 6 medals. One was a relay so that makes 9 people. Maybe there are 20 other potential medalists? 30 tests per month isn't insignificant.

I'm always logical. Logic requires objective facts, and not jumping on a sensationalist bandwagon full of innuendo.I don't troll on the Paula threads, unless you consider asking for something concrete, direct, and objective is trolling.I'm American, so I don't think it's patriotism.This story already has something that none of the Paula threads do -- concrete evidence of banned substances linked to a coach, training with a group of athletes. It already has two athletes and a coach directly connected to Aden, corroborating the story and other athletes tweeting their doubts.Again, let's wait and see what the testing shows, what the documents show, and what we learn from other athletes, coaches, and the investigation.

casual obsever wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

Everyone who knows me knows I'm a "wait and see" kind of guy, but even I'm afraid this association is not looking very good for Genzebe Dibaba at this moment. Let's wait and see what comes out from the testing, and other investigations.

Lol. That from you - must be your first time to act logical on this forum.

So are you admitting to trolling on the various Paula threads, or is that simply your patriotism shining through here?

Are you a racist? What's color got to do with it. If they had the drugs and did the drugs it will be found out.

how many top level guys are there in uk athletics?

like none. they will be testing 3:59 milers

El Keniano wrote:

trollism wrote:

The non-compliance issue and......the bus load of positive tests - you forgot about the bus load.

Think that's an important factor as to why Kenya should be looked upon with suspicion.

Yes. A bus load of third and fourth-tier Kenyans. Again, test all you want. Kenyan high schoolers will continue to be better runners than the best the British system can conjure up. That will never change.

I'm going to politely invite you to Shut Up, until you write a long post about how wrong it has been for Kenya to get away with no out of competition testing for so many decades while other countries, countries with athletes that have mostly lost medals and monies to certainly some percentage of dirty Kenyan's.

Keino and Bolt and others have been screaming for Kenya to get this together, to get out of competitive in line with the regulations...

While you think it would mean something for them to test clean in an obvious time when they would have already been doping and are off the stuff and likely to test clean -- and are gleeful about "rubbing their face in it."

A bit biased, there. So, shut up, already!

20,000 will include every amateur club runner in the country. Maybe they should be testing me? I did SMASH 40minutes at the 10k on Friday. OMG how am I getting away with it?

Triple Talked wrote:

JohnsonBLVD wrote:

You are so full of shit. Everyone is Innocent till proven guilty??? Is that how you treated the Oregon Project around this time last year?

One year later and the investigations are over yet you still look at them like they are doping. Save it.

wejo wrote:

Spare me the indignation. We have never said they are dopers.

This is what Alberto Salazar has admitted to doing.

The double talk turn around wrote:

Wejo is correct. He never once said NOP IS GUILTY.

^Fixed

Not to mention he's publically admitted to trolling his own board, to using other names and handles to stir things up; that he and his brother have baited each other under false handles to try and create a buzz on the board...or bait certain perceptions?

Small clarification for brojos wondering why they don't remember dibaba' sister winning: dibaba was second at 2011 Chicago, was bumped to gold after Russian caught

STFU K wrote:

Triple Talked wrote:

^Fixed

Not to mention he's publically admitted to trolling his own board, to using other names and handles to stir things up; that he and his brother have baited each other under false handles to try and create a buzz on the board...or bait certain perceptions?

Sounds like what Trump is doing.

I KNEW IT wrote:

FOR OVER 4 YEARS, I'VE BEEN SAYING 'DIDOPER' ON HERE AND I HAVE BEEN BANNED SEVERAL TIMES, AND CALLED A RAYYYYYYYYCIST HUNDREDS OF TIMES.

WHITE GUILT IS WHAT HAS CAUSED THIS. ANYTIME YOU QUESTION THESE AFRICAN CHEATERS YOU ARE IMMEDIATELY CALLED A RAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYCISTTTTTT, AND TOLD BLACKS ARE SUPERIOR(IRONIC HUH).

maybe you were banned bc you're super f_cking annoying.