HOW MUCH MONEY COULD CLAYTON AND BRAZIER MAKE IF THEY SIGHNED TODAY?

Less than a summer intern at Facebook.

How much would Nike or some shoes compost offer these two young men, I am curious to here the Gueses!

You may want to leave Nike out of this. Their foolish lawsuit against Boris will come home to roost immediately. Instant karma, baby! The hot young talent is going to think twice, no three times before even talking to Nike. Now that Nike's sh*tty contracts are out in the open only an idiot or ill advised athlete will consider signing with Nike.

Ha, Ha, Haaaa! Fools!

The most important question should be who is his coach going to be? I have bad feeling OTC and Rowlands doesn't do anything with a hot mid-distance prospect (Greer, Fleet, Wheating, Mulger, Jock, Cirain, etc). These guys just love running for the Swoosh.

You have that right. Nike doesn't have anyone who can coach 800m.

abcdef wrote:

Murphy got offered by Brooks???? Windle (the former 800m "great" out of Ohio) went to brooks for the mid 20's per year I think. I'm not sure of the cost of living in Seattle, but I imagine that's not much money to live on. That being said, Murphy is worlds ahead of Windle so I imagine he'd get at least 1.5-2x more base salary than Windle got out of college right now, but school is still important so I'd hope he would factor that in. His former Akron teammate Barber (Pole Vault) signed a contract before graduating so I wouldn't be totally surprised, especially with his international experience with worlds and NACACs, but I imagine Lebade would keep him from doing anything that big before his senior year.

I believe the Brooks Beasts have low base salaries but had housing paid for (i.e. a bunch of the beasts live together and Brooks picks-up the rent tab). Think of the 20k like a stipend.

Nike shoots themselves in foot wrote:

How much would Nike or some shoes compost offer these two young men, I am curious to here the Gueses!

You may want to leave Nike out of this. Their foolish lawsuit against Boris will come home to roost immediately. Instant karma, baby! The hot young talent is going to think twice, no three times before even talking to Nike. Now that Nike's sh*tty contracts are out in the open only an idiot or ill advised athlete will consider signing with Nike.

Ha, Ha, Haaaa! Fools!

Nike has superior contracts. Having reductions doesn't change that they pay way more.

Nike has superior contracts. Having reductions doesn't change that they pay way more.

No, they don't pay "way more". And in the few cases that do pay a lot, the reduction clauses can very easily decimate the total amount. Now we know why Kiprop races himself into the ground every year, why he toes the line half asleep at the Pre meet every year. How much is Kiprop's base pay with Nike? Bet it is only a little over $100k/year.

Reductio ad absurdum wrote:

Nike has superior contracts. Having reductions doesn't change that they pay way more.

No, they don't pay "way more". And in the few cases that do pay a lot, the reduction clauses can very easily decimate the total amount. Now we know why Kiprop races himself into the ground every year, why he toes the line half asleep at the Pre meet every year. How much is Kiprop's base pay with Nike? Bet it is only a little over $100k/year.

$250/year base with incentives.

Brazier would do himself better to stay one more year training with a good coach at TA&M, gain consistency in his times and get $750 base.

Writers wrote:

How much would Nike or some shoes compost offer these two young men, I am curious to here the Gueses!

Put your ear to the sky if you want to hear the Geeses.

xcrunner6 wrote:

Clayton was offered by brooks this past summer fyi and he said no.

FYI, Clayton was offered a contract by Brooks during the Summer of 2015 and he declined.

wasn't brazier 4:0x in high school? he has 45 speed, which would make the olympics for any other country. remember our 400 and under has the same prestige as the kenyan distance names. murphy has a 145 (and drastically lowering) and a 336 (on the same trend). but his xc credentials show five years from now he could probably dominate any track event from 800 to 5k. that same mindset would put db at 1500 ultimately. just as college coaches blend potential and credentials into recruiting decisions and scholarships, pro contracts probably take the same thing into account.

wasn't brazier 4:0x in high school? he has 45 speed, which would make the olympics for any other country. remember our 400 and under has the same prestige as the kenyan distance names. murphy has a 145 (and drastically lowering) and a 336 (on the same trend). but his xc credentials show five years from now he could probably dominate any track event from 800 to 5k. that same mindset would put db at 1500 ultimately. just as college coaches blend potential and credentials into recruiting decisions and scholarships, pro contracts probably take the same thing into account.

Hahahahahha

$250 wrote:

Brazier would do himself better to stay one more year training with a good coach at TA&M, gain consistency in his times and get $750 base.

Not a chance.

8FE wrote:

Clayton could command $30-60k/year or much more if a company really wants him. Brazier is in the $150K+ range, up to $250K+ per year base.

Seriously that is nuts. Clayton will get way more than that. Comparing him to Drew Windle is a joke.

Looks like I was pretty dead-on.

Thank you, wejo.

wejo wrote:

8FE wrote:

Clayton could command $30-60k/year or much more if a company really wants him. Brazier is in the $150K+ range, up to $250K+ per year base.

Seriously that is nuts. Clayton will get way more than that. Comparing him to Drew Windle is a joke.

I think potentially Clayton will be at another level than Windle but at this point in their careers it's not a joke to compare the two.

Windle is a multi time D2 NCAA 800 Champion. His PR is the same as Murphy's at 800. He has the A standard in the 800. He placed top 4 at USA's indoors, just tenths from 2nd. Murphy's 1500 potential gives him a higher ceiling potentially but at this point it's definitely not a joke to compare the 2.