What is Mary Cain doing with her life?

Alberto SaladBar blew it

Agreed. That's a hell of a day. I would think it's too much but I'm not a coach. I've always heard that some coaches blessed to have really talented youth runners will push them as hard as possible--some will fall by the wayside but one or two could just emerge to be truly national class or maybe even world class.The thing about Alberto, though, is that he really has appeared to have brought Rupp along very patiently. So why do people think he's done wrong by Cain or others?

lost 2016 wrote:

That's crazy hard training, following a race, for a teen.

Fixer of things wrote:

Agreed. That's a hell of a day. I would think it's too much but I'm not a coach. I've always heard that some coaches blessed to have really talented youth runners will push them as hard as possible--some will fall by the wayside but one or two could just emerge to be truly national class or maybe even world class.

The thing about Alberto, though, is that he really has appeared to have brought Rupp along very patiently. So why do people think he's done wrong by Cain or others?

lost 2016 wrote:

That's crazy hard training, following a race, for a teen.

Rupp had access to more aids than Cain has since she isn't in the inner circle of the Salazar group. This allowed Rupp to continue to get better while continuously increasing intensity. Right around the time little Salazar was being used as a Lab Rat to find out how much T would trigger a positive Rupp magically found a kick and at the end of races and dropped tons of PRs. Look back at some of the original threads about Rupp and when he took his career to the next level and some whistle blower was saying he started taking T.

Mary was training like a world medalist at 17 years old with no real thoughts of a long term career and this is what she has to show for it. Flash in the pan success and now 20 years old without much of a future. Salazar didn't need to have her doing what his other runners were doing in their late 20's early 30's but he did it any way. If you are going to be with the NOP you are only training for medals and there isn't another option. That's why so many burn out from his high volume/intensity training after about 2 years because the body is destroyed. Also why the Thyroid matter comes into play because they need that to slow the process of deterioration.

JK Snns wrote:

Alberto SaladBar blew it

+1

JK Snns wrote:

JK Snns wrote:

Alberto SaladBar blew it

+1

Indeed he did blow it. What happened to his patented slow-steady-progress plan that he worked for Rupp, fixed for Farah, is working on with Centro, and is starting up with Hasay?

Salazar is the wrong coach for Cain. That is now obvious. She doesn't need to quit running. She needs a new coach who has more patients with her.

Slow Steady Progress wrote:

JK Snns wrote:

+1

Indeed he did blow it. What happened to his patented slow-steady-progress plan that he worked for Rupp, fixed for Farah, is working on with Centro, and is starting up with Hasay?

Salazar is the wrong coach for Cain. That is now obvious. She doesn't need to quit running. She needs a new coach who has more patients with her.

Lol "more patients."

Typo of the decade.

Watching that 2014 workout again (Cain/Hasay: 4:24/4:28 mile race (Hasay was very disappointed afterward), then Hasay 4M tempo in 21:53/Cain 3M tempo in 16:23, then 600/400/300/200 breakdown in something like 1:46/62/44?/27.4 (Cain)/28 (Hasay), I just get the sense that Salazar was pushing his athletes beyond their sustainable capacity. You could see it in his encouragement along the way and Hasay's look at the end. Cain wasn't broken but couldn't believe that she was to do a tempo like that and how many times can you seriously go to the well like that before you burn out? Especially when young.

You know what wrote:

She got out before the hammer comes down on Al Sal and the NOP doping.

Don't hold your breath.