Who were the intersex 800m medalists at the WC in Portland?

1st Francine Niyonsaba Burundi 2:00.01

3rd Margaret Nyairera Wambui Kenya 2:00.44

Ned Yost wrote:

1st Francine Niyonsaba Burundi 2:00.01

3rd Margaret Nyairera Wambui Kenya 2:00.44

And your conclusion is based on what?

There was controversy about Margaret Wambui when she won world junior championships two years ago. I don't know if it was based on anything valid but it made the news.

Spell it out for me wrote:

And your conclusion is based on what?

Nothing but circumstantial evidence, as far as I know. That said, here's Niyonsaba's performance history:

2012: 1:56.59 as a junior

2013: 1:56.72 early but then stopped competing halfway through the year

2014: didn’t compete:

2015:

2:10.9hA SB 7 Nakuru 18 Apr

2:12.7hA 4h2 Kisii 9 May

2:11.9hA 3 Kisii 9 May

2:09.0hA SB 2 Eldoret 23 May

2:07.9hA SB 10 NC Nairobi 11 Jul

2:05.45A SB 2 NC Kampala 18 Jul

1:59.62 SB 1 Città Padova 6 Sep

1:57.62 SB (4) 1 Rieti 2015 Rieti 13 Sep

The CAS ruling that overturned the IAAF's testosterone rules was announced on July 27, 2015.

I don't think the OP is serious.

Is you blind? wrote:

I don't think the OP is serious.

The OP and LetsRun.com are both serious (we talked about this in our Rabat preview). Joanna Harper, an athlete and scientist who has made the transition from man to woman, has written that the following :

"In fact two of the three medalists in the 800 meter race at the recent indoor world championships are probably intersex. It is very possible that we could see an all intersex podium in the 800 in Rio, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see as many as five intersex women in the eight-person final."

LetsRun.com wrote:

Is you blind? wrote:

I don't think the OP is serious.

The OP and LetsRun.com are both serious (we talked about this in our Rabat preview). Joanna Harper, an athlete and scientist who has made the transition from man to woman, has written that the following :

"In fact two of the three medalists in the 800 meter race at the recent indoor world championships are probably intersex. It is very possible that we could see an all intersex podium in the 800 in Rio, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see as many as five intersex women in the eight-person final."

http://sportsscientists.com/2016/05/hyperandrogenism-women-vs-women-vs-men-sport-qa-joanna-harper/

I mean I don't think the OP is serious that he or she could not tell which medalists were suspect just based on the eye test. I honestly thought they were making a joke of the whole thing.

Who are the other two that Harper thinks could be in the 800m Final?

I am serious.

The posts in other threads suggesting that a woman might be intersex just because someone thinks she is unattractive seem like a very flimsy basis for suggesting that someone has an intersex condition, especially when the times being run aren't anything very out of the ordinary.

I appreciate the post above with Nyonsaba's progression because it looks like her times might have been affected by rule changes in the same way Semenya's were. Maybe she was just injured, but I can at least see the logic.

As for Margaret Wambui, all I can find is another thread on LRC, a LRC column by Joanna Harper, and a Deadspin article that seems to be referring to the LRC posts.

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=5925714

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2014/09/brief-history-intersex-athletes-sport/

http://fittish.deadspin.com/iaaf-ioc-indian-woman-not-woman-enough-to-compete-in-1643329298

That's not very compelling evidence to me.

Margaret Wambui might look even more like a man than Caster Semenya

She looks like a young Garrett Morris.