Letsrun, do we have another 'Caster Semenya situation' in girls 800 at 2014 World Juniors?

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i remember berlin 2009

5 years ago 07/22/2014 6:51pm CDT

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Did anyone take a look at the photo of the Kenyan girl in the 800 from article on the front page:

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2014/07/m-1500w-800-sabrina-southerland-american-advance-patrick-joseph-just-misses/screenshot-2014-07-22-at-3-43-40-pm/

I know Kenyan teens often have the short shaved head and look boyish but boy oh boy.

That photo made me instantly think, "Caster Semenya."

Was anyone watching it live? Did they show her close up?
Doo

5 years ago 07/22/2014 6:54pm CDT
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Interview Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ-qn7Jjxh0
Caster S

5 years ago 07/22/2014 6:57pm CDT
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That's a dude, y'all.
xenonscreamdude

5 years ago 07/22/2014 7:01pm CDT
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Hey, sometimes age cheating isn't enough.
xenonscreamdude

5 years ago 07/22/2014 7:01pm CDT
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Girlier girl in the comp:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1XoVYMpFWU
Suarez is the man

5 years ago 07/22/2014 7:05pm CDT
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A boy named Margaret? Okay whatever you say

Fredo Santana

5 years ago 07/22/2014 7:06pm CDT
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That's exactly what I thought while watching live. Makes me wonder.
notice this

5 years ago 07/22/2014 7:06pm CDT
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And 'she' beat the 1:57 girl from Cuba.

This story is about to go big.
You're Brainwashed

5 years ago 07/22/2014 7:08pm CDT
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xenonscreamdude wrote:

Girlier girl in the comp:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1XoVYMpFWU

"Girly" is a social construct
may I suggest

5 years ago 07/22/2014 7:32pm CDT
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that the IAAF tells us Wambui is very consistent

Margaret Nyairera Wambui

COUNTRY Kenya Kenya DATE OF BIRTH 15 SEP 1995

Progression - Outdoor

2014 2:04.24 Eugene (Hayward Field), OR 22 JUL
2014 2:04.24 Nairobi (Nyayo Stadium) 26 JUN
VPNGuy

5 years ago 07/22/2014 7:42pm CDT
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In the third heat of the 800m Raevyn Rogers was running in the middle/outside of lane 1 near the end of the first lap. Imali, another Kenyan, was coming up on the inside of lane 1 as Rogers, still leading, was moving slightly toward the middle/inside of the lane. Imali stomped on the back of Rogers foot or ankle. This cost Rogers the qualifying, although she bravely finished the race. Imali was the third qualifier in the heat.

No DQ or protest as far as I could tell, but it clearly cost Rogers her qualifying spot.
Kipketer_Pumpkin_Eater

5 years ago 07/22/2014 7:59pm CDT
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I totally agree with OP. That is without a doubt manly, even by the most manly of African women standards, of most every imaginable sub-Saharan African culture and peoples. If this is an innocent happenstance, then almost without a doubt there is genetic/physically based gender ambiguity.

VPNGuy

5 years ago 07/22/2014 8:04pm CDT
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Rogers gets stomped

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKHjvdpZMXY

about :48 of the video.
Stephen Colbert

5 years ago 07/22/2014 8:07pm CDT
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Aside from the short hair she doesn't look manly. And even if she did she could just be a "manly"-looking (to you) woman.
PIL

5 years ago 07/22/2014 8:09pm CDT
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Rogers was weaving like a drunken sailor the whole race; wasn't holding any sort of line. Another competitor also was confused by her with 200m to go as she weaved far off the rail and then weaved back.
Kipketer_Pumpkin_Eater

5 years ago 07/22/2014 8:11pm CDT
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Waaaaaa? I've seen lots of pictures of female Kenyan running athletes... and African women from a great array of sub-Saharan cultures and peoples. Many of them, would be by Western standards, non-girly, but to a reasonable, non-Anglo-centric perspective, still clearly identifiably female. Quit disagreeing just to stir up trouble, nimrod. I could give many many pictures as examples.

Stephen Colbert wrote:

Aside from the short hair she doesn't look manly. And even if she did she could just be a "manly"-looking (to you) woman.
WestWould

5 years ago 07/22/2014 8:13pm CDT
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Well she can't be labeled that until she blows up like Caster did. Not sure of her full credentials, but Caster was a very special athlete.
Fruit L00ps

5 years ago 07/22/2014 8:16pm CDT
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Dude, that is a dude!

Maybe he didn't understand the "M" "F" on the entry?
Stephen Colbert

5 years ago 07/22/2014 8:21pm CDT
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Kipketer_Pumpkin_Eater wrote:

Stephen Colbert wrote:

Aside from the short hair she doesn't look manly. And even if she did she could just be a "manly"-looking (to you) woman.

Waaaaaa? I've seen lots of pictures of female Kenyan running athletes... and African women from a great array of sub-Saharan cultures and peoples. Many of them, would be by Western standards, non-girly, but to a reasonable, non-Anglo-centric perspective, still clearly identifiably female. Quit disagreeing just to stir up trouble, nimrod. I could give many many pictures as examples.

Okay let's see them.

If you cover her hair she does not look that manly to me. Tot he contrary this thread is just to stir up trouble. Tell me how Edna Kiplagat looks so much more womanly other than her hair: http://www.boulderwave.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Kiplagat_Edna1-London12.jpg
Fruit L00ps

5 years ago 07/22/2014 8:21pm CDT
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"Do we have another 'Caster Semenya situation' in girls 800 at 2014 World Juniors?"

Why would you even ask this question? ;-) It is a dude!