Convention Center isn't in the best neighborhood.
Portland is average to below average for "northern" cities:
(Rank, city, homeless rating) (Source: WalletHub, "southern" cities excluded)
4 Overland Park,KS 77.79
T-5 Sioux Falls, SD 75.64
13 Anchorage, AK 73.04
16 Yonkers, NY 72.80
19 Lincoln, NE 72.05
20 Oxnard, CA 71.98
22 Aurora, CO 71.69
23 Madison, WI 71.56
24 Omaha, NE 71.16
29 Aurora, IL 69.93
30 Colorado Spr., CO 69.89
38 St. Paul, MN 67.86
40 Boise City, ID 67.79
42 Des Moines 67.72
44 Wichita, KS 67.51
48 Denver, CO 66.92
51 Vancouver, WA 66.51
52 Seattle, WA 66.33
55 Minneapolis, MN 65.61
61 Spokane, WA 64.09
64 Worcester, MA 63.61
65 Fort Wayne, IN 63.56
68 Pittsburgh, PA 63.18
70 Jersey City, NJ 63.14
73 Salt Lake, UT 62.95
74 Tulsa, OK 62.84
78 Honolulu, HI 61.85
85 Grand Rapids, MI61.35
90 Tacoma, WA 61.02
92 Boston, MA 60.68
93 PORTLAND, OR 60.54
95 Columbus, OH 60.37
97 Chicago, IL 60.01
98 New York, NY 59.92
114 Springfield, MO 57.56
115 Milwaukee, WI 57.25
119 Rochester, NY 55.51
125 Akron, OH 54.38
130 Buffalo, NY 53.40
131 Toledo, OH 53.38
132 Providence, RI 52.79
137 Philadelphia,PA 51.23
Portland, Oregon IS Nasty
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Portland, OR is the primo place if you like to have sex with very massive, obese white women.
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Portland sucks and so does Nike. Al Sal is thought to be a cheat. Nike is the shoe company that became big off taking jobs from Americans. That is why Portland has so many homeless. Originally the people came to make shoes and Nike went overseas and made a giant homeless population in Portland. Really they should call it Potland. I've never seen so many high hippies. Guess I would be smoking it up if I lived in such a sheet hole. The only place worse is Texas and the reason txrunnergrl moved.
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No, Portland doesn't have some of the worst air in the nation. It isn't ranked among the top 25 in any of these categories.
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While I would not want to live in a place with that much traffic, Portland just put on a *great* meet at WIC. I did my run from the convention center to save time and it was just fine. The food and beer and general vibe in the old Mississippi district a couple miles from the meet were good. I prefer iiving in MT but I'd be happy to go back to Portland to watch another high level meet. Ditto for Eugene.
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sc42 wrote:
While I would not want to live in a place with that much traffic..
The traffic... After 3:00 pm, you don't leave your house if you have the day off. You also don't travel from 6:30am to 9:30am.
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They didn't expect a running paradise! Read, they are both physicians and went for the $. One is more of a biker. They are impressed with the bank but nothing else.
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What is unclear, Twinn?
I am not criticizing any other location. I love Boston, Philadelphia, New York, Dallas, and in and on. What I was responding to was the ongoing criticism for a city and state that supports track and distance running with no equal in this country, in my opinion.
I don't even need to enumerate the big events, schools, companies, athletes and teams that are the result of a distance running ethos that runs through Oregon's culture since the Bill Hayward days at Iregon, at least.
If you like competitive distance running, you would have to look at Portland and conclude that whatever this place is, it is highly conducive to being successful at track and field. -
It IS nasty
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I lived there for 6 years and agree that there is some nasty stuff including traffic and homelessness everywhere. But the part about nowhere to run is ridiculous. There are good options all over the place. You can have crappy weather for a stretch of the winter, but it was no worse on average than places like Austin or Minneapolis which are also very active cities. Several of the winters I lived there were pretty good anyway. Didn't have the constant rain people can't stop talking about.
If you want a sparkling clean city, Portland isn't your place. But if you're ok with dodging a few homeless camps as you run the river, and don't have to get on a highway at 8am or 5pm, then you might love it. -
There is a story in today's Oregonian about the population growth in Oregon reaching pre-recession levels.
National Avg. - 0.8 annual population increase.
Oregon - 1.5
Portland - 2.0
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peanut butter jelly time wrote:
I lived there for 6 years and agree that there is some nasty stuff including traffic and homelessness everywhere. But the part about nowhere to run is ridiculous. There are good options all over the place. You can have crappy weather for a stretch of the winter, but it was no worse on average than places like Austin or Minneapolis which are also very active cities. Several of the winters I lived there were pretty good anyway. Didn't have the constant rain people can't stop talking about.
If you want a sparkling clean city, Portland isn't your place. But if you're ok with dodging a few homeless camps as you run the river, and don't have to get on a highway at 8am or 5pm, then you might love it.
Visited Portland in 1972 on way to Olympic Trials in Eugene and it was beautiful prosperous, clean, safe and sparkling with endless places to run. But something happened in the 80s, maybe prompted by that weird mayor who had a picture of himself taken exposing himself to a statue. At some point in there it turned into a PC mecca and the nexus for every drug-addicted white-trash loser in the Pacific Northwest. It's even got some skin heads to liven up the weirdness. Paradise lost, I say. -
Good, please tell everyone you know how much you hated it here. And have them tell everyone that they know.
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andicamp wrote:
Good, please tell everyone you know how much you hated it here. And have them tell everyone that they know.
Thank you in advance.
You must be a resident. May a used syringe pierce your Nike and lice inhabit your flannel shirt. -
Ronald Reagan that's what happened.
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MortieMeek wrote:
Visited Portland in 1972 on way to Olympic Trials in Eugene and it was beautiful prosperous, clean, safe and sparkling with endless places to run. But something happened in the 80s...
If my math is right, you are about 70 years old, and you are discussing changes that you noticed while driving through town 44 years ago. How well did you get to know the place while stopping for burgers and fries in Tigard or wherever?
If you haven't been through Portland since 1972 it means you haven't been to an Olympic Trials, or Diamond League meet, or World Championships in quite a while since they've all been here.
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Agree. That's why we all live in Beaverton. Hipsters are banned in Beaverton by city ordnance.
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Just about every city block southwest of the river looks exactly the same, and there are enough red bricks to make you puke. If you're going to put that many bricks somewhere, at least give it some character.
Their public library is tiny and technologically backward, and they let people go in there with dogs. Not blind or disabled people, just regular people and regular dogs.
People on the street are shy and self-absorbed. They will try to ignore you if you talk to them. They make-believe that you didn't say anything and go about their business. They also have an affected niceness like they're terrified of offending anyone, which is probably why they can't tell each other to get their effing dogs out of the library.
If you get stuck in the airport in the middle of the night, there is a 24-hour convenience store hidden landside next to one of the TSA screening areas. I bet some of those world indoors fans could have used that information a while back.
I think whoever designed and built Portland took into account that the entire city will sink into its silty foundation when it is liquefied by the Juan de Fuca earthquake. They wisely decided not to put anything of real value there. -
Top 3 American Cities with the Worst Decline in Living Since 2000
1. Seattle
2. Portland
3. Austin
I used to want to send my daughter to U-Texas, now there's no way in hell.
