Bernie Sanders ran cross country and track! What were his times?

What I'm saying is informed.

A percentage is meaningless by itself. Rich people pay far more in actual dollars than poor people. 20% of $1 million is more than 50% of $20 thousand. Is it fair that rich people pay far more in taxes than poorer people? No. The actual fact is that the top income bracket pays a large majority of the country's taxes. That doesn't sound fair at all.

Wall Street was not the main perpetrator. You think they wanted the recession to happen? The issue is regulation not Wall Street.

Yes, Trump has rightfully called out illegal immigrants. They're all criminals so thinking that they should be deported is not a bad idea. It's certainly not the only option, but it certainly isn't "inept" or "nonsensical". It's logical and rational.

He has literally said that he likes immigrants but they should come legally. I don't see what problem you have with building a wall. That's how you keep people out and how you control a border. There is nothing nonsensical about that.

He didn't say ban all muslims, nor is it unconstitutional. Sounds like you are the one who is listening to biased news sources. I don't get my facts from any biased news source. You're really showing your ineptitude by accusing me of things that I've never said I do.

A percentage is meaningless by itself. Rich people pay far more in actual dollars than poor people. 20% of $1 million is more than 50% of $20 thousand. Is it fair that rich people pay far more in taxes than poorer people? No. The actual fact is that the top income bracket pays a large majority of the country's taxes. That doesn't sound fair at all.

Oh My God. What a pathetic acceptance of the rich man's propaganda.

You ask the wrong questions.

Is it fair that a dozen hedge fund managers make over $1 billion per year while millions of full time workers are on welfare?

Now there is a pertinent question.

Here's the Milesplit article about Sanders:

http://ny.milesplit.com/articles/174127-feel-the-bern-a-look-at-bernie-sanders-psal-running-roots

Now back to your politics.

K5 defector wrote:

Is it fair that a dozen hedge fund managers make over $1 billion per year while millions of full time workers are on welfare?

That is obviously not fair. In fact, some may interpret "millions of full time workers" as a few millions. That's not the case. There are 110 million full time workers that receive welfare! That's totally unacceptable. Let's join forces and cut that welfare immediately.

K5 defector wrote:

Is it fair that a dozen hedge fund managers make over $1 billion per year while millions of full time workers are on welfare?

Yes. Sometimes fair does not mean equal.

You don't seem to give any facts at all. I agree with you the issue is regulation which have stated in the very post that you are replying to that that is all Bernie wants to do about wall street. Regulations were taken away recklessness caused the recession.

Your logic is kind of flawed about the taxes. You should like a bitter rich old white that will now have to sell one of his homes because the has to pay taxes now. If someone that makes $50000 and $5000000 pay the same amount of $10000 in taxes for example, how is it fair that one has to pay 20 % of there income and one pays .2%. The less you make the less fair it becomes. It would rig the system even more. The rich would get richer and poor would get poorer.

A wall expensive and would not be effective. Same thing with deporting all current illegals in this country. Who is going to pay for that, and don't make me laugh by saying Mexico. People try to bash Bernie's plan but trump has never once given a detailed plan or how he plans to pay for his ideas.

You obliviously have problems with comprehension. As I stated in my previous post, Trump did call for a ban on all Muslims ENTERING our country.

K5 defector [\b]

Is it fair that a dozen hedge fund managers make over $1 billion per year while millions of full time workers are on welfare?

Now there is a pertinent question.

Yes it is fair. If the hedge fund managers didn't put these people on welfare, why should they be penalized for it? Your premise isn't even true. No full time worker is on welfare.

Bernie Sanders tax policies will loterally sabe this country over 5 trillion dollars in 8 years. He wants to put money in the hands of hard working Americans and out of the hands of money guzzling CEO's on Wallstreet.

The American people are tired of the way things have been going and Bernie is the refreshing energy and optimism this country needs.

He's big on income equality with men and women, minorities and whites. Bernie is the man.

Craig Lutz Fan wrote:

Bernie Sanders tax policies will loterally sabe this country over 5 trillion dollars in 8 years. He wants to put money in the hands of hard working Americans and out of the hands of money guzzling CEO's on Wallstreet.

The American people are tired of the way things have been going and Bernie is the refreshing energy and optimism this country needs.

He's big on income equality with men and women, minorities and whites. Bernie is the man.

9/10. You sound just like some of the college freshmen.

I wouldn't call him a liar, rather a demagogue. He advocates for the very reasonable frustrations of the lower and middle classes. however his solutions to many issues are preposterous, and he is actually just another bitter old white dude.

I'm a sophomore ;)

f*** the rich!!! wrote:

Craig Lutz Fan wrote:

Bernie Sanders tax policies will loterally sabe this country over 5 trillion dollars in 8 years. He wants to put money in the hands of hard working Americans and out of the hands of money guzzling CEO's on Wallstreet.

The American people are tired of the way things have been going and Bernie is the refreshing energy and optimism this country needs.

He's big on income equality with men and women, minorities and whites. Bernie is the man.

9/10. You sound just like some of the college freshmen.

I gave plenty of facts. You just refuse to accept them because they prove you wrong.

Regulation is NOT all that Sanders wants to do about Wall Street. He also wants to make them pay for some of the "free stuff" that he is proposing. You're completely wrong on this.

The poor are not getting poorer. Everyone is making more money. The rich and the poor. One of the reasons the middle class is supposedly getting smaller is because the middle class has been able to rise to the upper class. You're wrong on this.

A wall would not be expensive. Nor would it be ineffective. I just listed several historical examples of successful walls. You just chose to ignore that. Why would you laugh at the idea of Mexico paying for the wall? Laughing is not an argument. If Mexico sent them over, then they should pay for the wall. That is a plan of how the wall will be payed for so why are you lying and saying Trump has never mentioned how he plans to fund his ideas?

Lastly, I do not have a reading comprehension problem. You do. Trump did not say he wants to ban Muslims or ban them from entering the country try.

I expect that your next response will continue your trend of not admitting where you were wrong and ignoring things you don't want to hear.

stupidity has no age

Logic wrote:

I wouldn't call him a liar, rather a demagogue. He advocates for the very reasonable frustrations of the lower and middle classes. however his solutions to many issues are preposterous, and he is actually just another bitter old white dude.

He is a liar. He is a demagogue. The two apply to different things he has done. What you said is an example of his demagoguery.

Everyone is making more money because of inflation. Inflation. Obviously you can't regulate that much ( in theory you can ).

Also Trump is a bigot. A racist. He wants muslims and Mexicans out of this country because he thinks every Syrian family who is seeking shelter, safety, and freedom is dangerous. And every Mexican family seeking the same is full of rapist. He said that. You can't deny it.

Bernie believes in helping low and middle income families. He believes in equality for all. He believes in equality opportunity. He belives in the people and that everyone deserves respect.

Please tell these so called facts you gave me, because you have yet to back up any of your statements. You have not once given sources for your statements. Simply stating your opinion determinedly does not make it fact unless you can back it up. You sound like a butt hurt rich old guy ;)

If by 'make them pay' you mean put a small tax on wall street speculation then yes. Which can be classified under regulation.https://berniesanders.com/issues/reforming-wall-street/

This is a very ignorant statement to make. People do make it and get rich but this number is very minuscule. With our current policies the wealth is funneled to the top.

http://fortune.com/2014/10/31/inequality-wealth-income-us/

I'm laughing because that is not a feasible way of paying for the wall. He does not have actual feasible way of funding his ideas. You are incredibly ignorant if you think Mexico 'SENT' illegal immigrants over here on purpose. They might have inadvertently done it for various indirect reasons. But asking them to pay for a wall like that is like asking The UK asking the US to pay for damages done during the American Revolution. Not gonna happen.

Also I do recall a famous wall in Berlin, and we all know how that turned out.

You might be the biggest troll or dumbest person on here.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/donald-trump-muslim-ban-immigration/

https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+wants+to+ban+muslims+from+entering+the+country&oq=trump+wants+to+ban+muslims+from+entering+the+country&aqs=chrome..69i57.14063j0j1&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

And yes it is unconstitutional. There is this thing called Freedom of religion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/626808/Donald-Trump-Muslim-ban-immigration-US-illegal-unconstitutional

In response to your last statement, I would say you have just described exactly what you have been doing and just did. Please inform me when you present any links to facts or anything for that matter. Trump sounds like a dictator. Only an ignorant delusional person would think otherwise.

I believe this sums you up.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/131/351/eb6.jpg?1307463786

rojo wrote:

8v8v wrote:

I really hope this is in jest

Why? There is ZERO chance I vote for Hilary. The only house she should be sent to in the next few months is the jail house , not the White House.

It amazes me that people don't see the huge support that Trump and Sanders are getting is basically the same thing. Scores of people are sick and tired of the establishment politicians saying whatever is necessary to get elected and then not delivering.

Hey Rojo, sure they're similar as non establishment candidates but their campaigns could not be more different from one another in terms of content. Trump plays on the fears of Americans and divides groups of people. Bernie is trying to bring people together. I hope folks at least try to hear Bernie's message instead of thinking that 'socialist' has to be a dirty word in American politics. He calls himself a democratic socialist. He believes in capitalism but sees the need to address income inequality and hold Wall St. Accountable.

My main reason to support Bernie is simply his stance on Citizen's United. Unless someone on these forums is a billionaire this should be something Democrats and Republicans should see as a problem. Individual Americans do not have a voice in the political process when corporations can buy politicians. Bernie only takes contributions from individual donors. Seems like reason enough to try hearing the rest of his message.

Cheers.

You are either deliberately obfuscating the facts or simply misrepresenting the truth. Sanders is taking as much advantage of Citizen's United as any other candidate:

Craig Lutz Fan

9 Everyone is making more money because of inflation. Inflation. Obviously you can't regulate that much ( in theory you can ).

Also Trump is a bigot. A racist. He wants muslims and Mexicans out of this country because he thinks every Syrian family who is seeking shelter, safety, and freedom is dangerous. And every Mexican family seeking the same is full of rapist. He said that. You can't deny it.

Bernie believes in helping low and middle income families. He believes in equality for all. He believes in equality opportunity. He belives in the people and that everyone deserves respect.

Each of your paragraphs is false. But they are so overboard that it's obvious you are just trolling. Why are you ruining this discussion with trolling?