11 year old boy sets half marathon age group record in Jacksonville

I don't see any Andrew Chambers in the 0-9 male section.

Why are you looking there - he's 11. 29:37 5k15 104 278 Andrew Chambers M 11 Lakeland FL 29:37 29:41 9:34 http://www.altavistasports.com/results/2015results/LKWALESTURKEY5K1122015.htm

Chambers wrote:

I don't see any Andrew Chambers in the 0-9 male section.

That is weird. That is the same kid from the half marathon because it also says that he is from Lakeland there as well. The only reason I can think of is that he was using the turkey trot as a recovery run or was just running it for fun, not competitively.

yyyy wrote:

mile is run indoors wrote:

No, he will likely run the mile if he is running 5 years from now. Outdoor, high schoolers run the 1600m. Indoors, the mile is common. He will be running indoor 5 years from now, not outdoor.

In my eight years of high school and college running, I don't think I ever ran an open 1600 in indoor.

He will run 1600m against other boys. Rarely a mile. Try to keep up.

Idiot, it doesn't matter how many 1600s he runs, he will probably run a mile at some point and therefore xxxx's post is valid and your correction is unwarranted. Take your hurt butt elsewhere.

Maybe, but other results on Athlinks (if it is the same kid) suggest 27'+ 5k & 65'+ 10khttp://www.athlinks.com/Events/501220/Courses/747647/?search=chambershttp://www.athlinks.com/Events/491486/Courses/736149/?search=chambershttp://www.athlinks.com/Events/491588/Courses/733215/?search=chambers

Chambers wrote:

That is weird. That is the same kid from the half marathon because it also says that he is from Lakeland there as well. The only reason I can think of is that he was using the turkey trot as a recovery run or was just running it for fun, not competitively.

If the parents of this child are hoping coaches of the pedigree of: Jumbo Elliott, Bill Bowerman or Roy Griak are going to sit down in parents living room and beg said kid to come to their university, parents have six years to get this lad's 400 metres PB, sub-52

Chambers wrote:

Andrew Chamber an 11 year old boy ran 1:23:16 which at the jax half marathon which is 6:21 per mile. Results posted here

http://www.1stplacesports.com/marine15halfres.htm

. He beat the age group record by 56 seconds. Age Group records here

http://www.arrs.net/SA_HMar.htm

. I did a quick search on him but couldn't find anything else. His potential is out of this world. Let me know what you think of this and say anything you know about him. You can read my other posts on this thread which is where I intially brought it up on page 2

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=6947593&page=1

These results are from October dumb****. No wonder people aren't seeing his name.

That's an incredible time. We need to keep track of this prodigy.

Obviously a screw up, I'll assume an 11 yo didn't purposely or maliciously cheat. But a 30+ 5k split can't turn into 1:23.

These are the correct results from todayhttp://www.1stplacesports.com/jm15halfres.htmAndrew Chambers 1st place in 11-13 age groupOther results for Andrew Chambers 11yr from Lakeland, FL do not indicate same ability if they are the same Andrew Chambers, 11, from Lakeland, FL.

Thomas Dewey wrote:

Chambers wrote:

Andrew Chamber an 11 year old boy ran 1:23:16 which at the jax half marathon which is 6:21 per mile. Results posted here

http://www.1stplacesports.com/marine15halfres.htm

. He beat the age group record by 56 seconds. Age Group records here

http://www.arrs.net/SA_HMar.htm

. I did a quick search on him but couldn't find anything else. His potential is out of this world. Let me know what you think of this and say anything you know about him. You can read my other posts on this thread which is where I intially brought it up on page 2

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=6947593&page=1

These results are from October dumb****. No wonder people aren't seeing his name.

Chambers wrote:

Yes this is an error. It is actually the 10k split and apparently they don't have a 5k split for him

Mike Rossi...

You sound like you have confirmed this - are you sure? All evidence indicates the time is not correct.

Chambers wrote:

Yes this is an error. It is actually the 10k split and apparently they don't have a 5k split for him

Agree w/ "mile is run indoors" wrote:

yyyy wrote:

He will run 1600m against other boys. Rarely a mile. Try to keep up.

Idiot, it doesn't matter how many 1600s he runs, he will probably run a mile at some point and therefore xxxx's post is valid and your correction is unwarranted. Take your hurt butt elsewhere.

Morun, he will only run 1-2 mile races. Mostly 1600m like the majority of HS runners. There is only ONE indoor meet in the entire state of FL. It's fools like you who have no clue what races a HSer typically run; your brain is still trapped in 4-400m laps = 1 mile. Morun, you and your pal xxxx.

Ok, so looking at his clock time versus chip time... it took him 45 seconds to cross the start line, which means he started really far back, and then he supposedly ran sub-6s for 10k (If his 5k split is really his 10k split), so he would have been FLYING past people running 8-9-10 minute pace. Through 10k he would have been on about 1:18 pace. The subsequent rig of +5 minutes for the second half would be highly believable at that point, but not nearly as believable as the most obvious scenario, which is that this 11 year old has a long way to go in mastering the art of course cutting.

What if the 5k time is correct, the finish time is actually the 10k time, and it is the finish time that is missing?

[quote]lkjhgfdsa wrote:

These are the correct results from today

/quote]

I doubt that.

yyyy wrote:

Morun, he will only run 1-2 mile races. Mostly 1600m like the majority of HS runners. There is only ONE indoor meet in the entire state of FL. It's fools like you who have no clue what races a HSer typically run; your brain is still trapped in 4-400m laps = 1 mile. Morun, you and your pal xxxx.

http://fl.milesplit.com/calendar/florida-indoor-meet-calendar

It's spelled "moran", dummy!

Even the marathon had some questionable results. One lady went through 10k in over an hour but "finished" in 3:29. There were a lot of missed splits.

On another note, how would you like to be a pretty good 20 something guy showing up to your local half marathon, running a time that would have about won the year before and getting 14th in your age group?

And speaking of the winner the year before, does anybody know 46 year old Gary Butcher who went through the first 10k in 31:22 on his way to a 1:09:09?

That had to be one of the highest age graded races in the nation for a half marathon.

yyyy wrote:

Agree w/ "mile is run indoors" wrote:

Idiot, it doesn't matter how many 1600s he runs, he will probably run a mile at some point and therefore xxxx's post is valid and your correction is unwarranted. Take your hurt butt elsewhere.

Morun, he will only run 1-2 mile races. Mostly 1600m like the majority of HS runners. There is only ONE indoor meet in the entire state of FL. It's fools like you who have no clue what races a HSer typically run; your brain is still trapped in 4-400m laps = 1 mile. Morun, you and your pal xxxx.

http://fl.milesplit.com/calendar/florida-indoor-meet-calendar

yyyy deserves death by nail-gun to the crotch, slowly radiating outward until the time of his passing.

To begin, as another poster demonstrated, even being wrong once is still being wrong. Therefore, you're wrong, yyyy. Suck it up.

On top of that, there's the issue that xxxx was not necessarily intending to mean that exactly a mile was contested, but rather a middle distance, and for brevity simply stated "mile." Yet with yyyy it's a "do as I say, not as I do" approach. yyyy demands precision and distinction between 1600m and 1 mile, but insists that the difference and distinction between 0 and a non-zero positive integer doesn't matter, because it's close enough to 0 (regarding the number of miles that may be run).

Furthermore, there's the fact that yyyy is using current data (FL schedule) to support his point, when xxxx clearly stated that the time in question is 5 years into the future, at which time more miles may be run.

yyyy also uses poor argumentative patterns. Simply repeating your statement neither clarifies nor wins the argument.

Lastly, and most troubling, there's the arrogance of yyyy. No better is it summed up than his use of "Try to keep up." This cliche plug-in, designed to assert intellectual superiority, is really only used by those who are intellectual inferior, as it is unoriginal. However, the fact that yyyy insists on attempting to assert intellectual superiority as a defense of his argument implies he can think of no real defense at all. In truth, "Try to keep up" is an admission of defeat.