Bekele" Mo Farah CANT break my world records"

Mr. Obvious wrote:

Devonian wrote:

Mo has a 3:28 high 1500. He's fast enough.

He's fast enough at 1500. He is no threat to the WR at 5000m or 10000m. Not close.

Nonsense. He's fast enough. He'd just need the perfect scenario to do it.

Who keeps trolling on behalf of Farah and Rupp?

Farah has already beat one of Bekele's records.

Don't know whether I missed it in the article, but why is Bekele in New Delhi?

My point stands: Salazar has not had success avoiding injuries to athletes under his direct care, as the following have been injured -

Cam Levins

Matt Centrowitz

Jordan Hasay

Galen Rupp

Shannon Rowbury

Luke Puskedra

Mary Cain

Treniere Moser

Mr. Obvious wrote:

Devonian wrote:

Mo has a 3:28 high 1500. He's fast enough.

He's fast enough at 1500. He is no threat to the WR at 5000m or 10000m. Not close.

I agree he isn't capable of breaking Bekele's 10,000m record, but I think he could get close to this 5000m record. I also think he could run faster at 3000m/2 Miles than Bekele could have at his best. He's already broken his indoor 2 mile record.

From Renato -

Renato Canova wrote:

Don't think the real value of Mo is 12'53". He ran already 12'57" in 2010, when we worked together for some month in Iten, in Zurich, and now is very much stronger, after going to Salazar. To think can run near 12'40" is something reasonable, such as the possibility of running under 26'30" in 10000m.

In b4 my obsessed stalker appears and calls me Ventolin...

I don't think we have any real evidence that Mo could run close to 1240, much less 1237. I guess I am just not willing to give people credit for fantasy clockings. I don't think Mo could run faster than 725. Whether that is marginally better or marginally worse than Bekele at his best is irrelevant, since the record is 720 and he isn't touching that. His 1253 is likely worth something faster but how much faster is simply a matter of conjecture and giving him 13 seconds off a good kick is being awfully generous. I would also note that race was quite a few years ago and he really hasn't put up any marks close to that recently. His best marks are in shorter distances

Hi ventolin!

tony the tiger wrote:

http://www.livemint.com/Leisure/BLZHEQ5xznDR731qnUtIeJ/Kenenisa-Bekeles-marathon-dreams.html

Will this motivate Mo ?

We don't really know how Mo would get on if he trained for the 5000 and 10000 records. It would be interesting to see him try for a record in good conditions with good quality rabbits, as Kenny and Geb used to do back in the day.

So far, Mo has trained and competed specifically for winning major championship medals and he's been very successful at that.

Evan Jäger has a better shot at the SC WR than Mo does at the 5k/10k WRs

The time has likely passed for Mo to break these WRs. Geb was 25 when he set his 5k and 10k WRs, and Kenny B was 21-23 when he set the 5k and 10k WRs. At 32, Mo is long in the tooth by comparison.

Mr. Obvious wrote:

His mentality is not the issue.

He is not fast enough. It isn't really close.

That's pretty funny. His two 3:28s are an indication of lack of speed? Ha.

Mo is faster than Ken. Probably stronger than him too. If he wants the world records, they are his.

Mo=GOAT

Devil Dog wrote:

Mr. Obvious wrote:

His mentality is not the issue.

He is not fast enough. It isn't really close.

That's pretty funny. His two 3:28s are an indication of lack of speed? Ha.

Ummm, you don't seem to know the difference in distance between a 1500, 5k and 10k. BTW, The Mo lost both 3:28 races. A GOAT who can't win a fast race at an honest pace. Sure thing.

I would not say Mo is faster than Bekele. Remember, Jelian out-kicked Mo over 10,000m. Jelian wouldn't be within 50m of Bekele in the homestretch of a 10,000m race.

Dog Devil wrote:

Devil Dog wrote:

That's pretty funny. His two 3:28s are an indication of lack of speed? Ha.

Ummm, you don't seem to know the difference in distance between a 1500, 5k and 10k. BTW, The Mo lost both 3:28 races. A GOAT who can't win a fast race at an honest pace. Sure thing.

"The Mo" lost to the best 1500 runner on the planet for the last decade (The Kiprop) in both of those races. Not necessarily a knock on him.

macdaddy wrote:

Dog Devil wrote:

Ummm, you don't seem to know the difference in distance between a 1500, 5k and 10k. BTW, The Mo lost both 3:28 races. A GOAT who can't win a fast race at an honest pace. Sure thing.

"The Mo" lost to the best 1500 runner on the planet for the last decade (The Kiprop) in both of those races. Not necessarily a knock on him.

But, the assumption is that Mo can beat the best 5k 10k runner of all time. They are both within one year of age. Bekele is DONE. While Mo can continue to improve and set records.

Bekele’s fiancée Alem Techale died of an apparent heart attack when she was 18, while out on a training run with him

Damn, didn't know this had happened. Very sad.

Also, this thread is a bit misleading. Bekele says Mo can't beat his records "right now." That doesn't preclude a good shot later in his career. Mo ran 3:2x whatever last year, and given how he kicks at the end of races you know he has a LOT in the tank even at fast speeds. I don't actually think Mo will break any of Bekele's records, but I think it's possible that he could.

Star wrote:

Mo doesn't have the mentality to go after records his records.

I don't see how he could flip that switch at this point in his career.

I agree!

I don't think the issue is talent as in Farah being physically incapable, but you have to believe you can break the record, train for it and run a race fully committed to breaking the record. I don't think any of those variables have existed for Farah. Farah has never had more than a one sentence response to any discussion about BK's records, which leads me to believe he's not interested in making an attempt. There is a difference between an athlete who responds to the stimulation from the challenge of winning a footrace to the finish line, versus an athlete who knows he can easily win the race and wants the challenge of dominating and running fast. I don't think Farah has ever lined up against the best athletes absolutely convinced he can win; therefore, why run would he risk/sacrifice winning to set records. Even if it is a non global championship race and Farah accepts the possibility of blowing up, you are going to pretty much be on your own if you attack the records. Being that most 5K/10Ks these days are barely won in sub-13 and sub-27, you are going to be running from the front by at least halfway. And, even the few athletes capable of pacing you are only capable of doing it for about 3/4ths of the race and your top competitors are not your friends and would never do it anyway. I just don't think an athlete in the twilight of his career can mentally change from being successful at out kicking everyone and start chasing records.

pr100 wrote:

tony the tiger wrote:http://www.livemint.com/Leisure/BLZHEQ5xznDR731qnUtIeJ/Kenenisa-Bekeles-marathon-dreams.html

Will this motivate Mo ?

We don't really know how Mo would get on if he trained for the 5000 and 10000 records. It would be interesting to see him try for a record in good conditions with good quality rabbits, as Kenny and Geb used to do back in the day.

So far, Mo has trained and competed specifically for winning major championship medals and he's been very successful at that.

Have you seen the 10000m WR? The rabbits were barely even in the race. He pretty much soloed a WR