Is King Ches the GOAT collegiate runner?

Henry Rono>Ches

Top 3, lets see what he does in the next year and a half

Yes, EOT

Everybody gives Ches crap for being "old", but have we forgotten that Rono was older as a freshman than Che's is now?

Until Ches breaks the following World Records in a span of 81 days or less: 3000m, 5000m, 10,000m and the 3000m steeplechase, Henry Rono remains the GOAT. Flotrack is clueless.

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Until Ches breaks the following World Records in a span of 81 days or less: 3000m, 5000m, 10,000m and the 3000m steeplechase, Henry Rono remains the GOAT. Flotrack is clueless.

Helps when you're 15 years older than your competition

Know your history, grandpa wrote:

Helps when you're 15 years older than your competition

How?

Definitely GOAT! Greatest masters runner competing at the DI level evah!!!

Rono was 26 yrs old in 1978. Exaggerate much?

Know your history, kids wrote:

Rono was 26 yrs old in 1978. Exaggerate much?

In any case, he wasn't of normal college age. But was he a collegiate runner? Yep. So he qualifies.

People should set an age range for this title of "GOAT collegiate runner" or rename it to "GOAT runner in early 20s" if that's what they're looking for.

Know your history, grandpa wrote:

Know your history, kids wrote:

Until Ches breaks the following World Records in a span of 81 days or less: 3000m, 5000m, 10,000m and the 3000m steeplechase, Henry Rono remains the GOAT. Flotrack is clueless.

Helps when you're 15 years older than your competition

Really, it's easier to break world records when you're 15 years older than your competition?

Rono was a GREAT runner but he was a grown man running against much younger competition for t he most part. That seems like a rather unfair advantage. Can you imagine if Galen Rupp was allowed to run for Oregon in his mid to late 20's? How much would Galen dominatr NCAA compeition?

John Treacy was pretty good at Providence.

GOAT?

That would be Gerry...

Jim Ryun

Broke the mile world record twice

Broke the 1500m world record

Broke the 880y world record

Broke the American 2 mile record

Olympic Silver Medal

Yeah King Ches is the goat he'll add 2 more National Championships in indoor and 2 more outdoor this year. He might have the Most Individual National Championships after his Junior year in College but if not he certainly will after his senior year.

what happens when Ches breaks 13 while still in an Oregon jersey... Probably this spring if he wanted to... Then is he the GOAT?

It comes down to the age old debate between finishing times and championships earned.

Depending how you look at it any of the following, and more I'm sure, could be in the running:

Cheserek - 9-NCAA Champs 3:56 / 13:18

Ryun - 1:44.9 / 3:51.1 At least 5 NCAA Championships 4 World Records

Prefontaine - 7 NCAA Championships - At least 7 American Records - 3:54 / 13:22

Lindgren - 11 NCAA Championships. (His only loss at an NCAA championship was to Jim Ryun in the 1968 indoor 2-mile) Personal Bests:

3 miles (4.8 km) - 12:53.0 (1966) Collegiate and American Record

6 miles (9.7 km) - 27:11.6 (1965) Collegiate and World Record

3000 meters - 7:58 (1965) Collegiate and American Record

5000 meters - 13:33.8 (1968) Collegiate and American Record

10000 meters - 28:40.2 (1967) Collegiate and American Record

Henry Rono - At least 6 NCAA Championships 4 World records 13:08 / 27:22

A couple of things... Did Pre never run indoor nationals? And why? Did the Ducks have something against Detroit?

Ryun doesn't appear to have run XC. Taking those championships out he's right in there, but is that fair to everyone else?

Yes! wrote:

Rono was a GREAT runner but he was a grown man running against much younger competition for t he most part. That seems like a rather unfair advantage. Can you imagine if Galen Rupp was allowed to run for Oregon in his mid to late 20's? How much would Galen dominatr NCAA compeition?

What does being a grown man or not have to do with it? Age doesn't matter. It's about how long you've been training. If you wanted to put a limit based on the number of years trained, that would make more sense.