Official D1 NCAA XC Live Discussion Thread

I guess Syracuse didn't need MJ Erb.

eww wrote:

Egun wrote:

Syracuse, called it months ago.

Great job by Syracuse coaches in learning how to peak a scrappy bunch.

Wetmore blew it with Saarel, look for him to transfer.

Cheserek was amazing.

Cuse out Coloradoed Colorado in the last 2km.

All hail the Orange.

Pump the brakes their kitten. If the syracuse coaches are so great why is this their first podium finish. The Orange will be back to average after knight and th others go home.

Texas with a marvelous pair of team finishes. Top 31 in the nation!

Hook 'em.

T BONE wrote:

If the Rosa's run together, Stanford wins today.

Yup. What happened? Was he sick? Hurt earlier in the year?

Also, Fisher in 17th overall! I don't know if I'm surprised or not, but, 10k is apparently not too far for him.

Cheserek is other-worldly. I remember watching McGorty win states and SE region his senior year. And I thought, 'McGorty's gonna get Ches this year'. Not only did he not, but, now, looking back, he never had a chance to.

Does anybody else think that Cheserek could, if he wanted to, break 13 this spring? He annihilated a pretty decent field and did it easily.

JUCO transfers of note:

Frankline Tonui JR Arkansas 40th, NJCAA 2013 runner up, 2014 4th place

Antibahs Kosgei JR Alabama 102nd, NJCAA 2013 5th place, 2014 runner up

Harry Mulenga JR Florida State, 153rd NJCAA 2013/2014 XC Champion

George Yator JR Louisville 211th, NJCAA 2013 10th place, 2014 5th

LM wrote:

Dang. Cheserek put 26 seconds on Tiernan with well under 2k to go. Made his move closer to 1-1.5k out.

Tiernan visibly packed it in after Ches blew by him. I wouldn't read into his last 2k too much.

eww wrote:

Colorado is the FIRST team of United States Runners.

would be sunk w/o their Canadians.

It just proves that you can buy a championship. Let the Cuse coach actually develop runners before we call him great.

Waaaaah! Waaaah! My heroes never win anything! Waaah!

Next time learn how to fix the formatting before you post.

Colorado State had good day 2 guys in the top 20. Not bad for a team wasn't picked to run

Is it possible colorado had 5 all american and still lost?

ryanhallsoffday wrote:

LM wrote:

Dang. Cheserek put 26 seconds on Tiernan with well under 2k to go. Made his move closer to 1-1.5k out.

Tiernan visibly packed it in after Ches blew by him. I wouldn't read into his last 2k too much.

Yea, I thought so too, and that's born out in Tiernan's last 6:19 split. But Ches's split was still 10s faster than Murphy, and 15s+ faster than anyone else in the field.

Either way some great running by those guys up front. +/- 15s from 29:00 is pretty darn good, especially in what looked to be windy (15-20mph) conditions.

arrrrrrrh! wrote:

Thank you Branch Sports Timing wrote:

Score Breakdown @ 8000m

Pl Name Points Avg R1 R2 R3 R4 R5 R6 R7

1 Syracuse

2, 6, 8, 41, 42, (45), (91)

99 23:50.2

J. Knight (SO)

3 - 23:33.6

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Next time learn how to fix the formatting before you post.

Next time, don't duplicate the error that you are whining about.

Let's be honest here, Syracuse got incredibly lucky today.

CU had two big off days (Saarel and Moussa), who were both top 10 (?) last year.

If Joe Rosa runs a below average race and finishes like top 35, Stanford would win.

Trump - Wetmore 2016

CUSE!! TCB!! I've been saying it all year

You must be kidding. Look at what Philo Germano was doing in high school before you say Chris Fox can't develop runners.

"If Joe Rosa runs a below average race and finishes like top 35, Stanford would win."

Seeing as Stanford was 69 points out of first and Joe Rosa scored 76 as their 5th, he pretty much had to be top 10 for Stanford to win.

eww wrote:

Colorado is the FIRST team of United States Runners.

would be sunk w/o their Canadians.

It just proves that you can buy a championship. Let the Cuse coach actually develop runners before we call him great.

When asked whether he would recruit foreigners, Wetmore said he would do so with any country that had a reciprocal practice with the US. I'm pretty sure some US runners attend Canadian universities on scholarships, I could be wrong though.

Also, Knight is from closer to Syracuse than half the Colorado team is to CU.

And as far as developing vs. "buying" kids for a program, I'd be curious to know the high school PRs of the scoring five runners for Syracuse and Colorado today.

crybaby wrote:

eww wrote:

Colorado is the FIRST team of United States Runners.

would be sunk w/o their Canadians.

It just proves that you can buy a championship. Let the Cuse coach actually develop runners before we call him great.

Waaaaah! Waaaah! My heroes never win anything! Waaah!

So Colin Bennie?

Here are the results without the native formatting.

1 28:45.8 Edward CheserekJR - Oregon ( 1 )

2 29:11.1 Patrick TiernanJR - Villanova ( )

3 29:37.0 Pierce MurphySR - Colorado ( 2 )

4 29:46.1 Justyn KnightSO - Syracuse ( 3 )

5 29:49.5 Jonathan GreenSO - Georgetown ( 4 )

6 29:52.7 Jim RosaSR - Stanford ( 5 )

7 29:53.4 Sean McGortyJR - Stanford ( 6 )

8 29:55.9 Colin BennieSO - Syracuse ( 7 )

9 29:59.5 Martin HehirSR - Syracuse ( 8 )

10 30:02.6 Marc ScottSO - Tulsa ( 9 )

11 30:04.4 Jonah KoechFR - UTEP ( 10 )

12 30:05.0 Erik PetersonSR - Butler ( )

13 30:05.3 Jefferson AbbeyJR - Colorado St. ( )

14 30:06.1 Thomas AwadSR - Penn ( 11 )

15 30:06.6 Anthony RotichSR - UTEP ( 12 )

16 30:06.7 Jacob BurchamJR - Oklahoma ( 13 )

17 30:07.9 Grant FisherFR - Stanford ( 14 )

18 30:09.4 Ernest KibetSR - Louisville ( 15 )

19 30:10.3 Jerrell MockSO - Colorado St. ( )

20 30:11.3 Gilbert KiruiSO - Iona ( 16 )

21 30:13.0 Lane WerleySR - UCLA ( 17 )

22 30:15.1 Thomas CurtinSR - Virginia Tech ( 18 )

23 30:15.3 Jack BruceSO - Arkansas ( 19 )

24 30:15.6 Trent LusignanSR - SD State ( )

25 30:16.1 Morgan PearsonSR - Colorado ( 20 )

26 30:16.4 John DresselFR - Colorado ( 21 )

27 30:16.8 Hassan OmarSR - UMBC ( )

28 30:17.3 Kyle EllerJR - Air Force ( )

29 30:18.2 Dylan LafondJR - Illinois ( )

30 30:19.3 Izaic YorksSR - Washington ( 22 )

31 30:19.8 Ben SaarelJR - Colorado ( 23 )

32 30:20.0 Colby GilbertSO - Washington ( 24 )

33 30:21.7 Connor WinterSR - Colorado ( 25 )

34 30:22.3 Luke TraynorJR - Tulsa ( 26 )

35 30:22.8 Hayden HawksSR - Southern Utah ( 27 )

36 30:22.8 Joel ReichowJR - SD State ( )

37 30:24.3 Jaime PeralesJR - Eastern Kentucky ( 28 )

38 30:27.9 Michael ClevengerSR - Notre Dame ( )

39 30:29.5 Philo GermanoSO - Syracuse ( 29 )

40 30:29.6 Frankline TonuiJR - Arkansas ( 30 )

41 30:29.8 Edwin KibichiyJR - Louisville ( 31 )

42 30:29.9 Ammar MoussaSR - Colorado ( 32 )

43 30:30.1 Chartt MillerSO - Iona ( 33 )

44 30:30.5 Jacob ThomsonSO - Kentucky ( )

45 30:30.6 Ben RaineroSR - Cornell ( )

46 30:30.6 Travis NeumanSO - Oregon ( 34 )

47 30:31.5 Joel HubbardJR - Syracuse ( 35 )

48 30:31.7 Gabe GonzalesSR - Arkansas ( 36 )

49 30:32.0 Darren FahyJR - Georgetown ( 37 )

50 30:32.6 Jake LeingangJR - Oregon ( 38 )

51 30:33.4 Aaron TempletonSO - Furman ( 39 )

52 30:34.6 Craig NowakSR - Oklahoma State ( 40 )

53 30:34.9 Japhet KipkoechSR - Louisville ( 41 )

54 30:35.7 Sherod HardtJR - Michigan State ( 42 )

55 30:38.8 Chase WeaverlingSO - Virginia ( 43 )

56 30:39.3 Tanner AndersonFR - Oregon ( 44 )

57 30:39.5 Michael WilliamsSO - Washington St. ( 45 )

58 30:39.7 Kieran ClementsJR - Iona ( 46 )

59 30:40.3 Henry WynneSO - Virginia ( 47 )

60 30:40.8 Brian BarrazaJR - Houston ( )

61 30:41.0 Kevin DooneySR - Yale ( )

62 30:41.1 Mike O'DowdSR - Iona ( 48 )

63 30:41.2 George ParsonsJR - NC State ( 49 )

64 30:41.5 Garrett SweattJR - Stanford ( 50 )

65 30:41.6 Dan LennonSR - Syracuse ( 51 )

66 30:42.2 Joseph StewartSR - Miami (Ohio) ( )

67 30:42.3 Mason FerlicSR - Michigan ( 52 )

68 30:42.6 Sean TobinSO - Mississippi ( 53 )

69 30:43.0 John MascariSR - Indiana State ( )

70 30:43.9 Elijah ArmstrongFR - Boise State ( 54 )

71 30:44.2 Bakri AbushoukSO - NC State ( 55 )

72 30:44.3 Tony SmoragiewiczSR - Michigan ( 56 )

73 30:44.8 Nicholas TuckJR - Penn ( 57 )

74 30:45.2 Dallin FarnsworthFR - BYU ( 58 )

75 30:45.3 Brian EimstadSR - Cornell ( )

76 30:46.0 Chris WaldenSR - California ( 59 )

77 30:46.1 Robert DenaultSR - Villanova ( )

78 30:46.8 Mike TateJR - Southern Utah ( 60 )

79 30:47.2 Caleb RhynardSR - Michigan State ( 61 )

80 30:47.6 Anthony OrtolanSR - UC Santa Barbara ( )

81 30:49.3 Aaron FletcherSR - BYU ( 62 )

82 30:49.6 Brandon DoughtySR - Oklahoma ( 63 )

83 30:49.8 Ben FlanaganJR - Michigan ( 64 )

84 30:50.5 Connor McMillanSO - BYU ( 65 )

85 30:51.0 Matthew MatonFR - Oregon ( 66 )

86 30:51.0 Eddie GarciaSR - Florida ( )

87 30:51.5 Tanner HinkleJR - Furman ( 67 )

88 30:51.9 Calvin ChemoiywoJR - Louisville ( 68 )

89 30:53.1 Austen DalquistSO - Arkansas ( 69 )

90 30:53.4 Erick RotichFR - Eastern Kentucky ( 70 )

91 30:53.5 Obsa AliSO - Minnesota ( 71 )

92 30:53.7 Nick RenbergJR - Michigan ( 72 )

93 30:54.2 Michael VennardSO - Boise State ( 73 )

94 30:54.4 Adam ZutzSR - Minnesota ( 74 )

95 30:55.2 Shaun ThompsonSR - Duke ( )

96 30:55.5 Andrew GardnerSO - Washington ( 75 )

97 30:55.8 Joe RosaSR - Stanford ( 76 )

98 30:56.2 Matthew MelanconSR - Oregon ( 77 )

99 30:58.5 Louis McAfeeSO - Boise State ( 78 )

100 30:58.8 Fred HuxhamSO - Washington ( 79 )

101 30:59.0 Joshua ThompsonSO - Oklahoma State ( 80 )

102 30:59.3 Antibahs KosgeiJR - Alabama ( )

103 30:59.9 Charlie LawrenceSO - Minnesota ( 81 )

104 31:00.2 Ahmed BileJR - Georgetown ( 82 )

105 31:00.4 John LawsonSO - California ( 83 )

106 31:00.6 Jacob PickleSO - Texas ( 84 )

107 31:00.7 Stanley LintonJR - Florida State ( 85 )

108 31:01.1 Antony KosgeiFR - UTEP ( 86 )

109 31:01.9 Troy ReederJR - Furman ( 87 )

110 31:02.4 Liam DeeFR - Iona ( 88 )

111 31:03.0 Cosmas BoitJR - UTEP ( 89 )

112 31:03.9 Cale WallaceSR - Arkansas ( 90 )

113 31:05.6 John WhelanJR - Washington St. ( 91 )

114 31:06.1 Benjamin PreisnerSO - Tulsa ( 92 )

115 31:06.6 Patrick CoronaSR - Air Force ( )

116 31:07.1 Chad NoelleSR - Oklahoma State ( 93 )

117 31:07.7 Matt BraffordFR - Oklahoma ( 94 )

118 31:08.2 Stephen MulherinJR - North Carolina ( )

119 31:08.3 Sergey SushchickhSR - UCLA ( 95 )

120 31:08.5 Rhys ParkSO - Boise State ( 96 )

121 31:08.7 Ryan GilSR - Oregon ( 97 )

122 31:09.7 Jonah DiazJR - UCLA ( 98 )

123 31:10.2 Joe KushSR - Syracuse ( 99 )

124 31:10.8 Amos KosgeyJR - Eastern Kentucky ( 100 )

125 31:11.4 Cerake GeberkidaneSO - Oklahoma State ( 101 )

126 31:11.5 Jimmy ClarkSR - Florida ( )

127 31:11.6 Nick HartleSR - UCLA ( 102 )

128 31:11.9 Amos BartelsmeyerSO - Georgetown ( 103 )

129 31:13.1 Connor MoraJR - Michigan ( 104 )

130 31:13.3 Meron SimonSR - NC State ( 105 )

131 31:13.9 Lawrence KipkoechFR - Campbell ( )

132 31:14.4 Dallin TaylorSO - BYU ( 106 )

133 31:15.6 Matt McClintockSR - Purdue ( )

134 31:16.8 Matthew CrichlowSR - Gonzaga ( )

135 31:17.5 Aaron BartnikSR - Minnesota ( 107 )

136 31:17.7 Evan LandesSR - Kansas ( )

137 31:17.9 Ambrose MaritimJR - Eastern Kentucky ( 108 )

138 31:18.1 Bryan GuijarroSR - UC Santa Barbara ( )

139 31:18.1 TJ CareyJR - Michigan State ( 109 )

140 31:18.6 Tait RutherfordSR - Columbia ( )

141 31:19.2 Zak SeddonSR - Florida State ( 110 )

142 31:19.5 Ibrahim AhmedJR - Southern Utah ( 111 )

143 31:21.2 Frank LaraSO - Furman ( 112 )

144 31:21.9 Stuart RobertsonJR - Virginia Tech ( 113 )

145 31:23.9 Trent BrendelSO - California ( 114 )

146 31:24.1 Nicolas MontanezJR - BYU ( 115 )

147 31:24.4 Dylan BlankenbakerJR - Oklahoma ( 116 )

148 31:25.7 Myles SmithSO - UCLA ( 117 )

149 31:27.6 Austin SpragueSO - Furman ( 118 )

150 31:27.6 Thomas MaddenJR - Virginia ( 119 )

151 31:27.9 Sam LevoraSO - Washington St. ( 120 )

152 31:28.5 Brandon AllenSO - Iona ( 121 )

153 31:28.7 Harry MulengaJR - Florida State ( 122 )

154 31:29.8 Nicholas RaymondJR - Eastern Michigan ( )

155 31:30.0 Dylan ShawhanSR - BYU ( 123 )

156 31:30.1 Robert DomanicJR - Mississippi ( 124 )

157 31:30.6 Neil GourleyJR - Virginia Tech ( 125 )

158 31:30.7 Michael LederhouseJR - Georgetown ( 126 )

159 31:31.5 Shinano MiyazawaJR - Southern Utah ( 127 )

160 31:31.7 Craig EngelsJR - Mississippi ( 128 )

161 31:31.8 Robert BrandtFR - California ( 129 )

162 31:32.0 Jack GoodwinSR - Florida State ( 130 )

163 31:32.3 Christian SkaretSR - Minnesota ( 131 )

164 31:32.8 Arse'ne GuillorelSO - Samford ( )

165 31:33.3 Brendan ShearnJR - Penn ( 132 )

166 31:33.5 Brent DemarestFR - Virginia ( 133 )

167 31:33.9 Addison DeHavenFR - Boise State ( 134 )

168 31:33.9 Chandler AustinFR - Boise State ( 135 )

169 31:35.5 Brian GohlkeSR - Oklahoma State ( 136 )

170 31:36.7 Christian HeymsfieldJR - Arkansas ( 137 )

171 31:36.7 Zach HerriottJR - Virginia ( 138 )

172 31:37.7 Thomas JoyceSR - California ( 139 )

173 31:38.5 Jamaine ColemanFR - Eastern Kentucky ( 140 )

174 31:38.5 Nathan WadhwaniFR - Washington St. ( 141 )

175 31:38.6 Brendan SmithSR - Penn ( 142 )

176 31:40.7 Alex GeorgeSO - Arkansas ( 143 )

177 31:41.3 Evan ChiplockJR - Virginia ( 144 )

178 31:41.7 Johnathan StevensSO - Washington ( 145 )

179 31:42.7 Eric AldrittJR - Oklahoma ( 146 )

180 31:42.9 Christian AlvaradoFR - Georgetown ( 147 )

181 31:45.2 Ferdinand EdmanJR - UCLA ( 148 )

182 31:46.7 Ryan ManahanSO - Mississippi ( 149 )

183 31:46.7 Chandler TeigenFR - Washington St. ( 150 )

184 31:47.2 Grant NykazaJR - Florida State ( 151 )

185 31:48.6 Iliass AouaniFR - Lamar ( )

186 31:49.8 Kasey KnevelbaardFR - Southern Utah ( 152 )

187 31:50.9 MJ ErbJR - Mississippi ( 153 )

188 31:52.2 Adam RoderiqueJR - Tulsa ( 154 )

189 31:53.6 Charles MathengeJR - Stephen F. Austin ( )

190 31:54.1 Daniel JaskowakSO - Virginia Tech ( 155 )

191 31:54.5 Josh BrickellSO - Furman ( 156 )

192 31:54.6 Daniel CheruiyotJR - UTEP ( 157 )

193 31:55.3 Nathan TadesseFR - Washington St. ( 158 )

194 31:56.7 Aaron BaumgartenSO - Michigan ( 159 )

195 31:57.0 Zach PerrinSO - Colorado ( 160 )

196 31:57.2 Sergio MarcuelloJR - Eastern Kentucky ( 161 )

197 31:57.3 Brady TurnbullSR - Texas ( 162 )

198 31:57.4 Matt WrightSO - Southern Utah ( 163 )

199 31:58.9 Clark RuizJR - Michigan State ( 164 )

200 31:59.2 Sean DavisJR - UCLA ( 165 )

201 31:59.6 August PappasSR - Michigan ( 166 )

202 32:00.3 Max BenoitSO - Michigan State ( 167 )

203 32:01.7 John RodehefferFR - Boise State ( 168 )

204 32:02.1 Nick SoterJR - Michigan State ( 169 )

205 32:03.3 Peter SeuferFR - Virginia Tech ( 170 )

206 32:04.9 Leland LaterJR - California ( 171 )

207 32:11.6 Sam WhartonSO - Stanford ( 172 )

208 32:11.8 Michael HallSO - Florida State ( 173 )

209 32:11.9 Johannes MotschmannSO - Iona ( 174 )

210 32:14.8 Mark RobertsonSO - Mississippi ( 175 )

211 32:15.0 George YatorJR - Louisville ( 176 )

212 32:16.5 Isaac LalangSO - Arkansas-Little Rock ( )

213 32:16.5 Mark HadleySO - Furman ( 177 )

214 32:17.1 Jordan WilliamszSR - Villanova ( )

215 32:17.6 Liam MeirowFR - Oklahoma ( 178 )

216 32:18.5 Garrett CorcoranSO - California ( 179 )

217 32:19.3 Will HogstonSR - Oklahoma ( 180 )

218 32:20.8 Brent MusselmanSO - Virginia Tech ( 181 )

219 32:24.2 Josh CollinsFR - Southern Utah ( 182 )

220 32:24.6 Andrew CusmanoSR - Michigan State ( 183 )

221 32:25.1 Kevin MonogueFR - Penn ( 184 )

222 32:27.6 Adam VisokayJR - Virginia ( 185 )

223 32:27.6 Jake FinneyFR - Washington St. ( 186 )

224 32:27.9 Austin Del RossoFR - Tulsa ( 187 )

225 32:29.1 Jonathan HarperSO - BYU ( 188 )

226 32:30.6 Alex RogersFR - Texas ( 189 )

227 32:31.1 Eric ColvinSO - Minnesota ( 190 )

228 32:33.1 Connor HendricksonSO - Texas ( 191 )

229 32:38.9 Tanis BaldwinFR - NC State ( 192 )

230 32:40.7 Patrick HallySO - Penn ( 193 )

231 32:43.8 Jack KeelanSO - Stanford ( 194 )

232 32:44.8 Sam RobersonJR - NC State ( 195 )

233 32:51.8 Ross WilsonSO - Penn ( 196 )

234 32:59.1 Zack LangstonFR - NC State ( 197 )

235 32:59.2 Vibushan SivakumaranSR - NC State ( 198 )

236 32:59.7 Trevor GilleyJR - Mississippi ( 199 )

237 33:00.2 Mahmoud MoussaFR - Washington ( 200 )

238 33:00.4 Scott CarpenterJR - Georgetown ( 201 )

239 33:00.9 Darren BarlowSR - Virginia Tech ( 202 )

240 33:06.9 Brigham HedgesSO - Oklahoma State ( 203 )

241 33:07.2 Daniel FleaceFR - Louisville ( 204 )

242 33:07.3 Andrew CoscoranFR - Florida State ( 205 )

243 33:09.2 Matt WelchSO - Minnesota ( 206 )

244 33:10.4 Nate MooreJR - Texas ( 207 )

245 33:14.3 Evans KipronoJR - UTEP ( 208 )

246 33:16.5 Isaac DobosFR - Tulsa ( 209 )

247 33:31.0 Matt StephensonJR - Louisville ( 210 )

248 34:14.3 Eric KroonFR - Texas ( 211 )

249 34:20.8 Tyler KingSR - Washington ( 212 )

250 34:28.2 Elijah SilvaSO - Tulsa ( 213 )

251 34:41.2 Chris PietraskiewiczFR - Texas ( 214 )

252 34:41.3 Vegard OelstadSR - Oklahoma State ( 215 )