Chris Solinsky or Ryan Hall - Who is the Better Runner Right Now?

Caleb's Hat wrote:

agip wrote:

yeah, that's the thing - 2:13 could make the olympic team. I'm not prepared to say that Hall can't run 2:13.

I think it will be harder to make the 10k team.

Supposedly Solinsky is trying for a marathon though.

No- He was working towards 26.2, but found his body couldn't handle that training. He's been focused on the 5K/10K.

why did you ask this?

really poor question.

some things are better left unsaid.

This.

I was actually there to watch Chris run that 13:23 and he looked strong. He started out conservatively and worked his way through the pack. My only guess as to what may have happened is he saw his fitness coming back and started training too hard. In the post race interview he actually says he's coming after Galen (showing how amped he must've been running 13:23 off of less than optimal training). I feel that if Chris had taken a long term approach maybe he'd be back to where he was by now, but who knows.

http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/250668-Payton-Jordan-Invitational-2013/video/707814-Chris-Solinsky-IS-BACK-1323-and-more-to-come-at-Oxy-at-2013-Payton-Jordan-Invite#.Vi6XMrerSUk

Not at all, someone else mentioned Ritz and I think it's surprising that of the "big 3" plus Solinsky that Ritz is still training and racing at a high level. I am more intereted in what physiologicly happens to these guys when they get to a point where they just can't do what they used to do and why it happens so quickly. I would expect more of a slow progressive decline but once they go down hill they seem to fall off of a cliff. Like I mentioned with Solinsky, just a couple years ago he ran 13:23 and this was after his surgery. Not long after his is struggling to run 14:00.

Hall tweeted this message this morning (10/26/15):

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The EQT Pittsburgh 10-Miler was yesterday.

Chris Solinsky ran 50:08 for 10th place:

http://results.xacte.com/?kw=p10m#

Ryan Hall ran the same race a year ago in 50:25 for 1st:

http://results.xacte.com/?kw=p10m#

Solinsky is clearly the superior athlete in this example.

Very similar weather conditions, albeit this year's was a bit earlier in the year so as not to conflict with the local football team's schedule.

For what it's worth, Tyler Pennel won yesterday's race and would have smoked them both, breaking the tape in 46:50:

http://results.xacte.com/?kw=p10m#

Zev wrote:

The EQT Pittsburgh 10-Miler was yesterday.

Chris Solinsky ran 50:08 for 10th place:

http://results.xacte.com/?kw=p10m#

Ryan Hall ran the same race a year ago in 50:25 for 1st:

http://results.xacte.com/?kw=p10m#

Solinsky is clearly the superior athlete in this example.

Very similar weather conditions, albeit this year's was a bit earlier in the year so as not to conflict with the local football team's schedule.

For what it's worth, Tyler Pennel won yesterday's race and would have smoked them both, breaking the tape in 46:50:

http://results.xacte.com/?kw=p10m#

Correction: Hall finished 10th not 1st. Bad typing, I apologize.

Zev wrote:

Zev wrote:

The EQT Pittsburgh 10-Miler was yesterday.

Chris Solinsky ran 50:08 for 10th place:

http://results.xacte.com/?kw=p10m#

Ryan Hall ran the same race a year ago in 50:25 for 1st:

http://results.xacte.com/?kw=p10m#

Solinsky is clearly the superior athlete in this example.

Very similar weather conditions, albeit this year's was a bit earlier in the year so as not to conflict with the local football team's schedule.

For what it's worth, Tyler Pennel won yesterday's race and would have smoked them both, breaking the tape in 46:50:

http://results.xacte.com/?kw=p10m#

Correction: Hall finished 10th not 1st. Bad typing, I apologize.

THAT'S NO F.V.CKING EXCUSE!!!!

SOLINSKY...CHRIS SOLINSKY IS...TAKING OFF!!!

LOOK HOW SMOOTH CHRIS SOLINSKY LOOKS RIGHT NOW WITH 800 METERS LEFT...

LOOK AT THIS...CHRIS SOLINSKY...DID ANYONE EVEN PREDICT THAT HE WOULD GO FOR A RECORD LIKE THIS???

LOOK AT THIS GAP...IT'S GROWING!...LOOK AT THIS!

CHRIS SOLINSKY! HE'S ONLY ON 500 METERS BETWEEN A WIN, A DEBUT...AN AWESOME DEBUT, AND AN AMERICAN RECORD!

CHRIS SOLINSKY ONE TO GO!!!

26 FLAT!!! OH MY GOD!!!!!! 26:03 OHHH MYYY GOOODDD!!! HE JUST RAN A 60.2!!! CHRIS SOLINSKY, A 60 AND HE BREAKS 27!!!

CHRIS SOLINSKY IS GONNA HAVE THE AMERICAN RECORD. GALEN RUPP IS AT THE 300 METER MARK.

THERE IS NO QUESTION WHO'S GONNA WIN THIS RACE!

200 METERS TO GO. WHAT'S THE TIME. GIVE IT TO ME!!!

CHRIS SOLINSKY HAS TAKEN THIS FIELD AND THIS CROWD BY STORM! NO ONE EXPECTED TO SEE THIS TONIGHT!

A NEW AMERICAN RECORD FOR CHRIS SOLINSKY IN WHAT WE THINK TO BE HIS 10K DEBUT!

55...HE MIGHT BREAK 27 MINUTES!!!

56...

57...COME ON CHRIS

58...

OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CHRIS SOLINSKY! 26:59!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chris is better.

The older I get, my good performances are fewer and far between despite consistently good training. I'll run a performance close to where I was at in my prime followed by 3-5 races paced nowhere near where my training would predict. Sometimes maturation, while good for your general psyche, makes you lose that mental edge that allowed you to push yourself to crazy lengths when young.

Solinsky isn't exactly old, but he certainly has the accumulated training load of someone much older. Same with Hall. Can't imagine either of these guys is going to become more consistent with age and now kids.

kadoo wrote:

Chris would finish a race, even if it wasn't as fast as we'd like. Hell, he'd even show up, which means he wins by default. Next question please.

He would finish a race provided that a 95 pound East African doesn't totally knock his body off the track.

Obviously Ryan Hill

proofreedr wrote:

Obviously Ryan Hill

+1

Far Out West wrote:

Not at all, someone else mentioned Ritz and I think it's surprising that of the "big 3" plus Solinsky that Ritz is still training and racing at a high level. I am more intereted in what physiologicly happens to these guys when they get to a point where they just can't do what they used to do and why it happens so quickly. I would expect more of a slow progressive decline but once they go down hill they seem to fall off of a cliff. Like I mentioned with Solinsky, just a couple years ago he ran 13:23 and this was after his surgery. Not long after his is struggling to run 14:00.

My apologies. Classy reply by you.

I think they both run 30 in a road 10k.

I like both runners. I hope they are not done competing at a high level but I think it is most likely the case.

As the other poster said, I thought Solinsky was on his way back after the 13:23 at Occidental. I am not sure what happened since.Also is German hurt again? I thought he was goi g to race in Pittsburgh.

proofreedr wrote:

Obviously Ryan Hill

Based on what? Lol

kadoo wrote:

Chris would finish a race, even if it wasn't as fast as we'd like. Hell, he'd even show up, which means he wins by default. Next question please.

Um, wut? You're talking about the guy who dropped out of a Diamond League track race because he got bumped by an 130lb African.

I'll never understand how athletes get these reputations on here. Rupp "ducks competition" and Solinsky is "tough" even though Rupp races against the best in the world more consistently than any other American distance runner and Solinsky gets pushed around by people who are smaller than the average middle schooler.