How the heck do insoles come out while running?

Simple. They make the insole super thin but don't glue it down. Silly decision. Then the insole crumples up and slips around in the shoe.

asdfadsfasdf wrote:

Simple. They make the insole super thin but don't glue it down. Silly decision. Then the insole crumples up and slips around in the shoe.

I have never had running shoes with the insole glued down. They are always loose and removable. I have never had an insole come out while running.

George Brett wrote:

asdfadsfasdf wrote:

Simple. They make the insole super thin but don't glue it down. Silly decision. Then the insole crumples up and slips around in the shoe.

I have never had running shoes with the insole glued down. They are always loose and removable. I have never had an insole come out while running.

Agreed, I've never had an insole even move around in my shoe, let alone come out.... How does this happen?

Curiously, after 45+ years of running this has happened to me several times just this summer, although it was in adidas RCs, not Nike's.

I agree -- it is the damnest thing and I still don't understand how it happened. It was problematic enough for me on 7 mile training runs -- i can't imagine how bad it would feel during during an international-level marathon!

If we weren't talking about a professional runner/god among men, I would say its the result of a sizing problem.

Just brainstorming, I openly admit to loving many Nike products (instead of blindly hating them) but don't appreciate how slippery their non blister socks have been getting. One foot is substantially bigger than the other to begin with but these add even more movement than I'd like in the roomier shoe

Seriously, wtf? wrote:

George Brett wrote:

I have never had running shoes with the insole glued down. They are always loose and removable. I have never had an insole come out while running.

Agreed, I've never had an insole even move around in my shoe, let alone come out.... How does this happen?

Also agree, I have 'loose' insoles and they never cause me any problems whatsoever.

He could have taken them out just slowing down without actually stopping. Surely losing 5s to take them out would pay off over the headache of dealing with the issue for over an hour for the 2nd half of a marathon WR attempt!

Does anyone have a video of the marathon? 5 decent videos of the in-line skating appear on youtube within a few hours of the event, but none of the actual marathon!?

I have been running & racing since the late 70's ( in Nike more than anything else) and I have never had it happen. Mainly insoles are glued down...sometimes not. I too am guessing he didn't have the right size shoes?

I would of slowed for a sec to yank em out. 2:04:01 still isn't too bad.

Maybe Eliud can read this and tell us what happened

" I openly admit to loving many Nike products (instead of blindly hating them)"

The question is do you blindly love them?

I wore only Nike for 28 years. The last 7 years I wore them, I thought they weren't as good as I remembered from HS but I knew my legs and feet weren't as good either and I never tried other shoes. About 7 years ago, I tried a pair of Saucony and a pair of Asics. They were much better. Since then I have tried and liked Brooks.

I will never stick with just one kind of shoes again. Next time I go shoe shopping, I will try Hokas. I doubt I am missing anything but you just have to be sure.

Clearly Eliud didn't get the memo about not trying anything new on race day.

Brooks t7 have the insoles permanently attached, or at least the version I have. I have experienced my insoles sliding backwards and would have worked their way out if I didn't stop to fix them. Fortunately only during training runs and when my shoes get very wet from sweat or rain or ... My problem is my socks create moe friction with the insole than the bottom of the insole with the shoe in some shoes so the insole slowly moves. Only happens to my left shoe so obviously a quirk in my stride/push off/foot strike.

I use automotive headliner adhesive and just glue all my insoles in now. Avoids the hassle.

We're they production insoles (or even a Nike product)? If you look at the photos, they say "Berlin".

Seriously, wtf? wrote:

George Brett wrote:

I have never had running shoes with the insole glued down. They are always loose and removable. I have never had an insole come out while running.

Agreed, I've never had an insole even move around in my shoe, let alone come out.... How does this happen?

I stupidly bought hoka cliftons. after the first run the insole crumpled up. Anyways I hate the shoe , and not spending another $10 for new insoles , even for dog walking.

George Brett: I think non-removable insoles are more common in racing shoes than regular trainers.

Those saying you never had this happen: have you tried running two hours at 440 pace?

I'd imagine that the shoe would have to be laced pretty lightly to allow the insole to work its way out of the shoe.

They are a custom pair of Nike Zoom Streak 6, which are not available on the market yet. You may as well consider them prototypes as they were specially tailored for Kipchoge and Berlin.

The Streak series normally has glued in insoles, but as these were hand finished they may have been an exception. It's also possible that the glue bond broke down early in the race.

I highly suspect that this was the first time that he had worn this particular pair of shoes and one has no way of knowing what's going to happen straight out of the box.

nikeman wrote:

I highly suspect that this was the first time that he had worn this particular pair of shoes and one has no way of knowing what's going to happen straight out of the box.

if that's true, it's as much his fault as Nike's - who never trains in a shoe they race in? Esp at the profesh level. That's rule #5. Maybe #6.

I think I saw it happen in a English football match yesterday. Something flew up in the air and they said the defender had lost his boot but you see that his boot was still on.

I think that Nikes "special tailoring" was less than optimal in this instance. I wonder if he could have broken the world record if his shoes were properly set up.