"75% of college-age men use PEDs"???

Took my kids to Disney this Spring, and I remember thinking how it seemed like a lot of big, jacked-up guys wherever I went - Late 20's-mid 30's age. Made me feel weak and vulnerable to a roid-rage incident.

Isn't caffeine a ped?

I was on a D-III cross country and track team up until a few years ago, and there was never the slightest hint that any of the guys were on PEDs (other than caffeine). In fact, most people didn't even use caffeine before races, and we definitely all knew who did and who didn't. I feel like I definitely would have known if people were using some sort of supplement.

Maybe things are different now, but I've gone back to hang out with the team a couple times per year, and haven't seen any indications of PED use. I'd be really surprised if any of the distance runners were using. As for other events, I don't know those guys as well so I can't be as confident, but I'd still be surprised.

In college, I got accused of PEDS going into my Soph year.. FR year I sucked, ran 15:50's for 5000m, had a rough year. Coming into SO year, I had a great summer, got 2nd in the alumni meet beating a bunch of studs and in our first organized track workout during XC in August ripped 4 x 1200m in 3:16 with 3:00 recovery and the SRs, etc., got super pissed. Ended up breaking the school record the following year, and all other records, getting A-A status, NCAA XC pool twice. But some of the racist guys on the teams thought it could be drugs.

just slightly older wrote:

So I am in my late 20s and work out at a university gym because it's near my place.

I was talking to a younger guy, like maybe 20, about supplements and he said he keeps it natural, just protein/AAs and nothing else. He made it sound like it was special so I asked if a lot of guys in college now are using other stuff. He said yeah most, and when I pushed him he guessed 75%! I asked what drugs and he said just straight T is easy to get, mostly in gels but also pills, which I found weird.

Is this true? We were talking about 75% of what you could call "real men" like guys who play sports and get laid, not your pencilneck dweeb types who obviously don't count.

With out doing any research, that number can't possibly be true; most college students couldn't afford PEDs even if they wanted them.

Woodstock wrote:

Isn't caffeine a ped?

Caffeine in general, as in a few cups of coffee or a caffeine pill is not illegal in any way. It becomes illegal when the concentration of it in your body hits a certain amount...

From the NCAA website: Caffeine is legally and socially acceptable throughout the world, but at certain levels it is considered a banned substance. For NCAA student-athletes, urinary caffeine levels exceeding 15 mcg/mL could result in a banned substances test. Although that level would be difficult to obtain with food (e.g., the equivalent of consuming about 17 caffeine-containing soft drinks), some student-athletes have reached that level and were disqualified.

you mean these, right?

http://www.candywarehouse.com/assets/item/large/pez-monsters-132377-im.jpg

T-ball wrote:

why don't they count? wrote:

Why doesn't the entire population count? The guy's claim was that 75% of college age men take PEDs. All college age men are part of the population under discussion.

men is the key word there you Nancy boy.

Exactly. I don't care what percentage of math majors are or PEDs.

Do you consider college kids men? That's classic. Surely there are some who would qualify but the average college kid is a long way from being a "real man" as you say.

And then there's the fact that you got a random number from a 20yr old kid at the gym and accepted it as gospel. Of course you didn't accept it as gospel but you did come to the right place to get the real number.

mileage_man wrote:

I was on a D-III cross country and track team up until a few years ago, and there was never the slightest hint that any of the guys were on PEDs (other than caffeine).

I'd be really surprised if any of the distance runners were using.

The original post specifically says he's looking at PEDS for lifting (aka by real men).

Cowl wrote:

In college, I got accused of PEDS going into my Soph year

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some of the racist guys on the teams thought it could be drugs.

Really? What is your race?