Karjuan Williams (USA): remember this youngsters name!!!

I've never heard of him and those are outstanding time for a senior less on a freshman. Where did you get your informantion? If he's running those kinds of times as a freshman then its not good for him as most phenoms burnout or get injuried. It will be interesting to see if he can go under 1:50 as a sophmore.

Vipam, you're a little slow on the uptake. Ever heard of Martin Mathathi? I anticipated you'd be salivating over him this morning.

"If he's running those kinds of times as a freshman then its not good for him as most phenoms burnout or get injuried."

I remember seeing the time progressions of Wilson Kipketer. He ran a 1:49 at the age of 12. It didn't seem to hurt him to run fast early.

Scotth, I never heard of that kid Karjuan and if you did then why haven't you said anything. Its not often that a 400m and 800m freshman comes along and almost run sub 1:50 his first year of high shool. I'm sure just like I never heard of him there are others out there as well. Great job Vipam!

What's to say? Hell yes, he's got a bright future! For the record, you could look Karjuan up...in the Nov T & FN. His 400m time is .05 ahead of fellow freshman Bryshon Nellum. Point taken that you may not've heard of him and others may not as well. I don't think it's a great job on Vipam's part to tell you about him. The info is out there, hiding in plain sight.

I'm not out to discourage discussion...but, geez, stating the obvious and inviting others to guess whether times might get faster is dull work. This board could be filled w/athlete names we should 'watch for in the future.'

I see this kid all the time when I run at the track. He is a good kid with a good atitude for the sport. He is not cocky at all. He is a pretty good cross runner also. He ran like 17:10 for 5k. He was in the top 25 at state.

NOrunner, thank you for you interesting information as well. Whats up with scotth, "the information is out there hiding in plain site"-thats a contridiction if I ever heard one (LOL). I and many others look for post like yours NOrunner and Vipam.

His school has some great coachs and staff. I see these guys working out during the weekend too. I think the times that were posted are from summer track. I've seen Karjuan doing 300 repeats in :35 with ease.

scotth-

if you don't like a certain poster or certain types of threads, don't read them and don't post on them. this is a discussion board. not every thread needs to be for everyone's consumption. you really, really need to lay off. you just look like a complete jackass.

The freshman national record is 1:51.03. I see that Karjuan ran his 800 time at the USATF Junior Olympics last summer. I assume that is before he entered HS, correct?

If so, I don't believe it is eligible for the record.

JW

I think generally times from Summer track would count towards class records (up until Aug 31 I believe.) Does anyone know how old he is?

The young men's division, in which he ran his 1:50.87 this past summer, is ages 17-18. He was competing in the youth division (ages 13-14) in 2001. I found a snippet of a link that mentioned he would be a junior in the coming year at St. Augustine in New Orleans in the coming year (although the link itself is obsolete). T&FN does list him as a freshman, but something's not right.

chuck d wrote:

scotth-

if you don't like a certain poster or certain types of threads, don't read them and don't post on them. this is a discussion board.

Friend, I discussed it plenty. I said the kid's got a bright future. What is else is there to say? It's dull work to project...speculation, guesswork, predicting, etc.

chuck d, do you recognize the name I posted above? Instead of telling me what to do, why don't you do a little homework and let others know what Martin did recently!

yes, i recognize the name. but this thread isn't about him. if you want to start one, by all means...

Sulus,

I was responding to VIPAM stating that Karjuan IS a freshman, meaning that as of September 2004 he entered high school. If that is in correct and he is currently a sophomore, then maybe that 1:50.87 does qualify as the NR.

But now someone has pointed out that he may have been an "old" freshman or not even a freshman at all.

JW

If he's running those kinds of times as a freshman then its not good for him as most phenoms burnout or get injuried.

it all depends on how they're training NOT how fast they're running. and since we have no idea how this guy is training, such snap judgments are premature.

Oh, so you recognize Martin Mathathi's name? Cool. Perhaps you can answer the question I posed above-what do you know about him AND why sharing this info is fitting in this thread?

chuck d wrote:

yes, i recognize the name.

he's just another kenyan who will be dominating a marathon near you (or not near you, like in, say, singapore).