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joedirt wrote:
Other athletes with twins:
Roger Federer - two sets
Muhammad Ali
Peyton Manning
Chuck Norris
(It's pretty crazy that the best in Tennis, the best in Cycling, two of the best distance runners, one of the greatest football players of all time and the immortal Chuck Norris all fall on this list)
Other Celbrities with twins that show signs of roid rage:
Al Pacino
Robert DeNiro
Mel Gibson
Charlie Sheen
Chris Hemsworth
Brad Pitt
George Bush
Yes. Especially Pacino in 'Scarface' and DeNiro in Taxi Driver. All the evidence I need.
Observer of things wrote:
Any guesses???
Here is one guess--you are an idiot.
I just realized this thread is from couple years ago and not sure how I missed it. I always knew women were put on extra hormones prior to receiving IVF. Does make you wonder the correlation of the male hormones playing a part. I think it's always good to inquire and have theories about a topic (no harm done) it could certainly and possibly help future studies like in the article you linked. Especially for couples who are desperately trying to have kids and spending ton of money for the procedures.
I wonder if there have been more studies done since then on this matter.
I thought the implication was that the men had low sperm counts due to all of the doping, so the couples tended to choose to do IVF (easily affordable if you're a wealthy professional athlete). If they implant two embryos...boom. Fraternal twins.
joedirt wrote:
Other athletes with twins:
Roger Federer - two sets
Muhammad Ali
Peyton Manning
Chuck Norris
(It's pretty crazy that the best in Tennis, the best in Cycling, two of the best distance runners, one of the greatest football players of all time and the immortal Chuck Norris all fall on this list)
Other Celbrities with twins that show signs of roid rage:
Al Pacino
Robert DeNiro
Mel Gibson
Charlie Sheen
Chris Hemsworth
Brad Pitt
George Bush
Chuck Norris didn't have twins. Mother Nature was scared Chuck wouldn't find his daughter perfect, so another one was produced - for parts.
To: Little Doper here, posted by joedirt on first page..
joedirt wrote:
I will preface this by saying I don't believe this, but lets take a trip down the rabbit's hole to see where it leads. I am a father of identical twins (odds are 3 in 1000), which nobody really knows the root cause. I just tell people we had sex twice in the same night. Fraternal twins is due to the mother releasing multiple eggs (a process known as hyperovulation). This process naturally occurs at a rate of about 1 in 80, but has increased to a rate of 1 in 30 due to the widespread use of fertility drugs and IVF. Certain tribes in Africa have a natural rate of 1 in 30, while Asian cultures have the lowest occurence of twins (on the order of 1 in 150). The commonly held belief is that diet and environmental factors are the main factors in this difference. Hormones are powerful things and small changes can have profound effects on a person. Hypothetically, it would be possible for a doped athlete to cause second hand exposure of these hormones either through shared saliva, bodily fluids, or in the instance of the steroid creams just casual contact. Similar transmissions have been found in pets of women who were using hormone creams to cope with menopause:
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/25/when-hormone-creams-expose-others-to-risks/?_r=0So, it is possible that the original posters postulate is not without merit. I would not think that exposure to testosterone or episterone would increase fertility, but who knows. Technically, Lance wasn't supposed to be able to have kids, but strange things happen.
I guess the link above is an updated article. The original on the first page was an actual study done by MDs/PHDs.
joedirt wrote:
Other athletes with twins:
Roger Federer - two sets
Muhammad Ali
Peyton Manning
Chuck Norris
(It's pretty crazy that the best in Tennis, the best in Cycling, two of the best distance runners, one of the greatest football players of all time and the immortal Chuck Norris all fall on this list)
Other Celbrities with twins that show signs of roid rage:
Al Pacino
Robert DeNiro
Mel Gibson
Charlie Sheen
Chris Hemsworth
Brad Pitt
George Bush
For every good tennis player with twins, there are 30 without. For every good runner with twins, there are 30 without. Repeat this among every sport. You must be trolling, as no one is that stupid.
Observer of things wrote:
Any guesses???
17 years ago, a book by Sally Jenkins and Lance Armstrong told of his cancer treatment and subsequent IVF, in which multiple embryos are implanted.
Not so hard to understand.
Michael Phelps
Dathan Ritzenhein
Alan Webb
El G
Michael Johnson
Michael Jordan
Eli Manning
Tom Brady
Chris Solinsky
just off the top of my head athletes, who are also parents, who do not have twins...
Coincidence???
The Olympic GOAT, Michael Phelps, did not have twins.
Breaking news wrote:
Observer of things wrote:Any guesses???
17 years ago, a book by Sally Jenkins and Lance Armstrong told of his cancer treatment and subsequent IVF, in which multiple embryos are implanted.
Not so hard to understand.
Hahaha, you said he had embryos implanted.
Lance had no embryos. He had semen frozen. Bruce J doesn't even have embryos.
And as an aside, turned out Lance was left with single ball, which seems to still function. Hence his screen nickname, Juan Pelota
Its seems it is hard for you to understand. Lance has gone through 4 + girl friends since then.
Tyler Hamilton had a twin.
Lots of twin these days with the ladies taking fertility drugs. Don't think it means anything. Also, people do have twins anyway.
Even if they are all dopers, not sure it makes twins.
This. Even this is just an educated guess, but any other theory would be farfetched to say the least.
What motivates you to act so stupid? I guess it's fun for you. At first you got me, but now I'm laughing.
oboesausage wrote:
Breaking news wrote:17 years ago, a book by Sally Jenkins and Lance Armstrong told of his cancer treatment and subsequent IVF, in which multiple embryos are implanted.
Not so hard to understand.
Hahaha, you said he had embryos implanted.
Lance had no embryos. He had semen frozen. Bruce J doesn't even have embryos.
And as an aside, turned out Lance was left with single ball, which seems to still function. Hence his screen nickname, Juan Pelota
Its seems it is hard for you to understand. Lance has gone through 4 + girl friends since then.
So did my uncle Ronny. Coincidence??
They are (or were) sponsored by Nike? ;)
I know Armstrong was doping, and also Farah and Rupp took l-carnitine but it must be a coincidence because men don't get pregnant.
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