An Emotional Bernard Lagat Speaks about Missing Worlds Team -- MUST-WATCH

More tests????? wrote:

cool kid wrote:

I think it's important to realize Lagat tested positive for EPO, and that suspicion will always linger about him.

I think he is a doper.

Lagat did not test positive, fool. Your failure to understand what a positive test requires makes you an clueless-fool.

Now, please provide links of any sort that indicate Lagat failed a test? Links other than the one you provided to the sample handler who sabotaged the A sample by conveniently cooking the sample in the trunk of their auto --where temperature climbs to a level deadly to humans in a matter of minutes-- for an entire day. Unfortunately, for fools like yourself, the handler of sample B was an honest person who did not cook the sample.

A & B samples are handled by same person. They are packaged together and shipped together in the same sealed container. Get in the know before posting your drivel.

I've also been suspicious of Lagat and El G (among others), but I think a lot has to do with biomechanics. There are few runners who are able to get around the track with such little effort as those two. If you look at the all-time greats (El G and Bekele in particular), everything about their form is almost flawless, from foot strike to knee drive to arm carriage. [/quote]

What runners 'look' like is irrelevant. I've known too many great runners with pained, horrible styles (eg Zatopek,AlSal). The smoothest runner I ever knew had a to-die-for floating gazelle efficient strong looking style. He never did break 2:10.....

I do not find it morally superior to lie about your citizenship in order to go to The World Championships than to be on drugs. I do find it fascinating how people will love this guy in spite of his lying and cheating and pushing out his former countrymen of a legitimate spot on the Kenyan team.

BLAST FROM THE PAST 4.1 wrote:

BLAST FROM THE PAST 2.0 wrote:

I am socal cush, and I hate Lagat with a passion. No black man is allowed to break my age group records, let alone a foreigner.

Yes, dude, your hatred and bigotry shine through, as they have for years.

I'm in my twenties you moron, but nice job editing my post and trying to dismiss the FACTS because they're "bigoted."

Maybe direct your anger at the guy who tested positive for EPO, but was let off after the B sample was negative, like Marion Jones.

I believe he can do it in the right weather/pacing/health

masters fan wrote:

Hopefully Lagat can regain his hunger after this weekend's disappointment, get some solid training under his belt and blast a sub 13 this summer. That should give him at least some compensation for missing the world's this year.

There was no moment like this in the Bernard Lagat timeline:

http://www.si.com/more-sports/photos/2008/01/11-0marion-jones-timeline/16

Dunkenfeld wrote:

I've also been suspicious of Lagat and El G (among others), but I think a lot has to do with biomechanics. There are few runners who are able to get around the track with such little effort as those two. If you look at the all-time greats (El G and Bekele in particular), everything about their form is almost flawless, from foot strike to knee drive to arm carriage.

What runners 'look' like is irrelevant. I've known too many great runners with pained, horrible styles (eg Zatopek,AlSal). The smoothest runner I ever knew had a to-die-for floating gazelle efficient strong looking style. He never did break 2:10.....[/quote]

Ha ha - sorry, but Zatopek and AlSal weren't running 12:37.

What a class act , i LOVE Bernard Lagat

and i will always have respect for him as human being and as an athlete ..I wish more athlete had the same grace , respect and sportsmanship as Bernie

einstein here never ran fast enough to be drug tested, so he has zero clue how testing works. would be pretty tough to "cook" only the A sample, considering they (both A and B) are BOTH sealed into a box, which you (the athlete) affix an adhesive seal which wraps around the entire circumference of the box which, again, contains BOTH sample bottles (A and B), making it nigh impossible to separate them.

More tests????? wrote:

Your failure to understand what a positive test requires makes you an clueless-fool. ..... Links other than the one you provided to the sample handler who sabotaged the A sample by conveniently cooking the sample in the trunk of their auto --where temperature climbs to a level deadly to humans in a matter of minutes-- for an entire day. Unfortunately, for fools like yourself, the handler of sample B was an honest person who did not cook the sample.

I'm a father, I was a good local runner when I (and my kids) were young.

They used to bring signs that said "Go Daddy" and they were so proud at award ceremonies.

I know what it's like to want to do something for your kids and feel like you've disappointed them.

As small as it seems, they're your kids and your goal is to make them happy.

No excuses but I believe Wilson Kipketer was still recovering from being sick of malaria a year earlier. Personally I believe that he's the best 800 meter runner ever.

I enjoy watching old footage of Sebastian Coe training are racing.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Devil Dog wrote:

Fast is relative.

Relative is exactly what fast is not. It is measured with extreme precision by clever Swiss people. The clock is absolute.

Kipketer is remembered for running 1:41.11. Nils Schumann won the big yellow rock, but is he mentioned among the all-time 800 greats? No. He's just the guy who beat Kipketer once.

In that case everybody should have forgotten Emil Zatopek by now.

Idiot!

Coach bigfoot wrote:

Devil Dog wrote:

Wrong. Fast gets forgotten. Fast is relative. Fast has expectations....the expectations of medals.

Or you could just not forget either. And tell that last statement to Mo Farah. His medals have put expectations on him to run fast. Completely opposite of what you said. It goes both ways. I'd rather win a medal but running fast is pretty awesome too. I'm pretty sure Daniel Komen is talked about on a monthly basis around these boards.

As long as nobody runs faster than 7,20.

Clean B sample. Overheated A sample. Same Box. Packaged differently. That the A sample was left in a car trunk, unwatched was previously established..

Opening a seals is easy if you know how.