cocoa puffs wrote:
Madmandoc wrote:I would tend to think he knows what he is doing better than we do. If his goal is to make a team, then times are not so important as a slower tactical race is likely in the final. In any case it is silly to question him when you don't know anything about the specifics of his training or current condition. Maybe he makes it interesting.
Exactly. So many people are citing PRs and past performances, but that has little to do with his current form (see Alan Webb). He may be in better 1500 shape than 800 shape at the moment. I would like to think he and his coaches know his training and body better than we do at the moment.
Don't get all butt hurt you guys. Just trying to start a little conversation. Nothing against Andrews. Hope he succeeds. He's already made it more interesting.
2012 Oxy wrote:
It may have been three years ago but he's still very much the same runner that pushed Mo Farah and Galen Rupp to the line at the Oxy meet in 2012 when he ran 3:34.78 (approx. splits; 43.5, 58.3, 58.8, 54.1)
At the Oly trials that year he had NO trouble in the prelims or semi's and ran a very respectable Finals. 11th with a lap to go and finished 5th with a 53.9 last quarter.
I would still rather seem him in the 800 personally, but this post made me reconsider his 1500 chances. I was thinking about the oxy race as kind of a fluke and the trials as a failure for him but after watching them both again I am wrong. Especially about the trials.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do3G-AEvJfYIf he hadn't started that move from dead last or if the golly green giant doesn't cut him off quite so aggressively I think he makes the team there. Hopefully he learned a lesson there and he can cut the 53 from further up in the pack this time.
cocoa puffs wrote:
Madmandoc wrote:I would tend to think he knows what he is doing better than we do. If his goal is to make a team, then times are not so important as a slower tactical race is likely in the final. In any case it is silly to question him when you don't know anything about the specifics of his training or current condition. Maybe he makes it interesting.
Exactly. So many people are citing PRs and past performances, but that has little to do with his current form (see Alan Webb). He may be in better 1500 shape than 800 shape at the moment. I would like to think he and his coaches know his training and body better than we do at the moment.
Current form is 1:46 800m and 3:57 mile (~56 close). Neither one screams legit contender. Now he hasn't run a ton of races yet so maybe their is some room for improvement but even peak Andrews is a guy that would be lucky to make eitehr team
Lesson learned fellas - next time STFU
Maybe he was thinking about running the 1500 in Beijing.
I guess Robby was thinking he wanted to go to worlds in the 1500m. 2nd place - awesome job!
Tgirl wrote:
Maybe he was thinking about running the 1500 in Beijing.
Haha yea probably
Like I said, stating the obvious..if you run donkey fractions he would be right there.
The only thing he did was almost screwed himself by not going nearly early enough.As it turns out, he got there,
Really an impressive race and fun to watch - hat's off to RA.
But - did I hear it right that he has not run the qualifying standard? Good problem to have if that's the case - pulling for him to make it if he hasn't.
Reason he went for 1500 over 8: 15 at trials is always a last 600m race, and Robby with his 800m speed he can make up the gap that he's behind by caused by his lack of tempo and endurance. Robby always responds when he needs to to surges and knows WHEN to respond (unlike Leo). He can switch gears quickly so he never gets dropped in the last lap and always stays in contact with good position. Then in the last 100m we all know the story, blow by. The US trials 15 is the perfect type of race for him. However in a DL 1500, he has no chance at a much faster pace and more frontrunners tactics, and you have to be a the front to be in contention. Robby couldn't just use his last 100m to get in the mix because the race is too fast to sit and kick. In the dl there are also just plain less tactics so there is less of a possibility of the big players blowing up and opening the door others.
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