More info please wrote:
Magness just released emails between himself, Rupp and Salazar after finding an unmarked vial in a car left behind by Rupp. They are demanding it be sent back to them ASAP.
Link?
Did Magness have these vials tested?
More info please wrote:
Magness just released emails between himself, Rupp and Salazar after finding an unmarked vial in a car left behind by Rupp. They are demanding it be sent back to them ASAP.
Link?
Did Magness have these vials tested?
Updated article states Magness also found some stuff left behind by Rupp and Salazar.
I have been pretty darn cautious about this story but I now am shifting well into the doubters camp. I also have allergies, and I go in for shots. I cannot imagine a bona fide explanation where Rupp is being allowed to take allergy medication outside a doctor's office. That scenario just can't possibly add up.
This is all sad. I really don't like Salazar, but I wanted this story to not be true. It now seems highly unlikely that it will be refuted, but will only get worse for NOP. So, now we begin to see the possibility of Kenenisa Bekele getting bronze and Tariku getting Galen's silver.
Some of people who refuse to see the light are Salazar's progeny. Full "I doped, waaaa," confessions from Farah and Rupp would not be sufficient evidence for them to every believe their daddy did anything wrong. You never convince Salazar's son Alex, son Tony, daughter Maria, and his wife of any wrong doing.
More info please wrote:
Magness just released emails between himself, Rupp and Salazar after finding an unmarked vial in a car left behind by Rupp. They are demanding it be sent back to them ASAP.
Please provide link.
Fentrekker wrote:
This is all sad. I really don't like Salazar, but I wanted this story to not be true. It now seems highly unlikely that it will be refuted, but will only get worse for NOP. So, now we begin to see the possibility of Kenenisa Bekele getting bronze and Tariku getting Galen's silver.
Farah is not out of the woods. He is Rupp's closest friend at NOP, and they spend a lot of time together when Farah is in Oregon. The two of them seem joined at the hip as the top dogs in Salazar's kennel.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-3127172/Alberto-Salazar-bag-needles-Fresh-claims-sports-therapist-John-Stiner-pile-pressure-Mo-Farah-s-coach.htmldarius rucker wrote:
More info please wrote:Magness just released emails between himself, Rupp and Salazar after finding an unmarked vial in a car left behind by Rupp. They are demanding it be sent back to them ASAP.
Please provide link.
This story is a total false flag. The androgel stuff is significant but Galen Rupp's allergy shots are a complete distraction.
Galen Rupp has been getting allergy shots since at least 2012:
http://www.runnersworld.com/olympic-trials/galen-rupp-makes-some-pre-trials-adjustments
Allergy shots need to be refrigerated.
They are not medication. They are allergens.
Many doctors send allergy shots home with their patients and allow them to do it themselves because going to the doctor every single week just to get a 5 minute shot is a huge inconvenience for most people. This is especially true for a professional athlete who is often traveling. They are not as effective if you miss or reschedule doses.
The doctor can't just "send new allergy meds" because allergy shots (which are not meds) are specifically formulated for each individual based on what they're allergic to. It takes time get the vials produced and sent to the office.
They expose your body to the allergens so that you become more tolerant of them. They are the only treatment for allergies that actually makes your allergies better instead of just fixing the symptoms.
NOP could be dirty as hell but this allergy and asthma stuff is just a total distraction.
Anyone else seeing comparisons to The Truman Show?
Would a professional doctor be allowed to give you an unmarked vial? If you have a specialized dosage just for you than why are there two different kinds of allergy vials?
If that is accurate thank you.
Galen Rupp probably has a lot of allergies so they don't all fit in one vial. I get two shots every week. One in my left arm and one in my right arm. This is because I have an absurd number of allergies. Two vials is pretty standard for people with a lot of allergies.
It sounds to me like they were labeled. One went in one arm and the other went in the other arm.... Pretty standard
KMB wrote:
Try Google wrote:Not too hard to confirm that allergy medicine needs to be refrigerated...
Right. So does milk, ground beef, and a great many other foods and chemicals, including insulin and a wealth of antibiotics.
Does anyone really have to point out that Salazar's needing these vials shipped by mail, rather than placed in airplane luggage, seems just a little suspicious? Moreover, vials that were "labeled" "Allegy 1" and "Allergy 2" instead of bearing the product descriptions and instructions borne on every legitimate prescription medication in the modern world?
You would think if it truly was a prescription drug, why not say the correct name? Or just say, "the allergy meds" and you see it has an official medication label/description even if you can't pronounce it. No need to put pseudo labels/names on vials if you don't have anything to hide. Seems common sense, no?
Would a professional doctor be allowed to give you an unmarked vial? If you have a specialized dosage just for you than why are there two different kinds of allergy vials?
According to the story I read the vials were not 'unmarked'. They had typewritten labels. Allergy serums are typically a concoction of different ingredients, so they're not going to have professionally pre-printed labels listing everything in them the way you see with regular medications.
So, you get vials without any identification on them except allergy? Your name is not one them? Your doctors name is not them? No experation date? No statement of when to take the med?
xenonscreams wrote:
It sounds to me like they were labeled. One went in one arm and the other went in the other arm.... Pretty standard
Finally, somebody with sense.
I went through this myself, called 'immunotherapy' and yes it was an inconvenience going to the doctor every week to get injected, but they usually want you to be in their presence or the presence of medical personnel in case of allergic reactions. Each serum created is individualized based on patient reactions to allergens. You build up your immune system with successive injections so that your body no longer floods with histamines (the stuff that gives you those nasty symptoms) when exposed to natural allergens.
Using a juicy wording like "hypodermic needles" obviously engenders something of a dubious drug image. Most people who read that and then thought that something even darker was uncovered about NOP are merely acting on emotion. No surprise, though, as many posters on here lack rationality.
Why doesn't LR ask someone who knows something about everything?
Steve Plascentia: Minnesota Director of T&F. Formerly employed by Dr. Kraig Jacobsen at Allergy and Asthma Associates in Eugene as Director of Sports Respiratory Medicine. Cardiac Rehab specialist at Sacred Heart Hospital in Eugene.
Seems like Steve would be a pretty good expert on everything in this report.
Makes you wonder wrote:
KMB wrote:Right. So does milk, ground beef, and a great many other foods and chemicals, including insulin and a wealth of antibiotics.
Does anyone really have to point out that Salazar's needing these vials shipped by mail, rather than placed in airplane luggage, seems just a little suspicious? Moreover, vials that were "labeled" "Allegy 1" and "Allergy 2" instead of bearing the product descriptions and instructions borne on every legitimate prescription medication in the modern world?
You would think if it truly was a prescription drug, why not say the correct name? Or just say, "the allergy meds" and you see it has an official medication label/description even if you can't pronounce it. No need to put pseudo labels/names on vials if you don't have anything to hide. Seems common sense, no?
They're not meds. They're not prescription drugs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItTxxHTRmwgMan Overboard wrote:
According to the story I read the vials were not 'unmarked'. They had typewritten labels. Allergy serums are typically a concoction of different ingredients, so they're not going to have professionally pre-printed labels listing everything in them the way you see with regular medications.
This is not true. You get special patient specific labels for ALL prescription drugs. A patient name must be on them.
Go read the law: FDA, Drugs, Labeling
http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfCFR/CFRSearch.cfm?CFRPart=201Using terms you don't understand doesn't lend you much credibility.
Pardon me, but only an utter dupe would write all of the bullshit you wrote here.
I can summarize your post like this;
"Galen Rupp has a known history of receiving allergy shots; therefore it's practically a given that the stuff Magness and Stiner found was for allergies. I mean, it WAS in the fridge!"
In so saying, you blithely ignore the obviously sketchy circumstances surrounding the HANDLING of these vials. How they were found, how they were shipped around the world, etc.
Once again: Are you really telling me that you don't think it would have been easy as hell for Rupp to just get what he needed where he was in Oregon is what he needed was an allergy shot?
THINK.
They are both, you goofy son of a butch! Yes, they act to sensitize the immune system to the offending substance and thereby lower the immune response to the actual environmental allergen. It is still a medication by any definition. It's a chemical used to treat a disease. You seem to have a faint understanding of this somewhere in your post.
Now, for your homework assignment, go look up "false flag operation."
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