What has the world come to? ESPN to honor Caitlyn Jenner with the Arthur Ashes courage award.

Olive Oil wrote:

Olive Oil wrote:

Sad. Jenner IS a man who mutilated his genitals (he did right? he's not a dude with a pecker and fake tits, right?). Your best argument back is to be hateful and attack a person? Your methods of arguing for respect are flawed- you cant respect anyone with a diferent opinion.

You think THAT is hateful? hahahaa

I mean, I feel bad that the guy has stunted atopic genitals. Wait, are you saying he doesn't? Did you take a sneak peak? I knew it!

Did you post using my username? What an idiot.

So what if I did take a look - aren't you the one arguing it's cool for everyone to do anything. And now you want to use homosexuality as something derogatory when you try to childishly accuse me of it? You are a complete idiot.

Olive Oil wrote:

Olive Oil wrote:

You think THAT is hateful? hahahaa

I mean, I feel bad that the guy has stunted atopic genitals. Wait, are you saying he doesn't? Did you take a sneak peak? I knew it!

Did you post using my username? What an idiot.

So what if I did take a look - aren't you the one arguing it's cool for everyone to do anything. And now you want to use homosexuality as something derogatory when you try to childishly accuse me of it? You are a complete idiot.

If you took a look you: 1) are either a doctor; or 2) a gay man who hates trannies.

I hope you are a doctor.

^ this is how you convince people to love trannies. Bravo.

I don't hate them though. I think they are ill and need treatment. They do not need surgeries that perpetuate their illness and irreversibly disfigure them.

Olive Oil wrote:

^ this is how you convince people to love trannies. Bravo.

I don't hate them though. I think they are ill and need treatment. They do not need surgeries that perpetuate their illness and irreversibly disfigure them.

According to the American Psychiatric Association, until 1974 homosexuality was a mental illness. Freud had alluded to homosexuality numerous times in his writings, and had concluded that paranoia and homosexuality were inseparable. Other psychiatrists wrote copiously on the subject, and homosexuality was “treated” on a wide basis.

You just need to swap a couple of words and you're golden.

jenner's dingaling wrote:

Olive Oil wrote:

^ this is how you convince people to love trannies. Bravo.

I don't hate them though. I think they are ill and need treatment. They do not need surgeries that perpetuate their illness and irreversibly disfigure them.

According to the American Psychiatric Association, until 1974 homosexuality was a mental illness. Freud had alluded to homosexuality numerous times in his writings, and had concluded that paranoia and homosexuality were inseparable. Other psychiatrists wrote copiously on the subject, and homosexuality was “treated” on a wide basis.

You just need to swap a couple of words and you're golden.

Let's see: According to the American Psychiatric Association, until 1974 aneroxia nervosa was a mental illness. Freud had alluded to anorexia numerous times in his writings, and had concluded that paranoia and anorexia were inseparable. Other psychiatrists wrote copiously on the subject, and anorexia was “treated” on a wide basis.

Works! Let's try again:

According to the American Psychiatric Association, until 1974 depression was a mental illness. Freud had alluded to depression numerous times in his writings, and had concluded that paranoia and depression were inseparable. Other psychiatrists wrote copiously on the subject, and depression was “treated” on a wide basis.

What? Works again!!!

There you have it folks: nothing is an illness. Everything is perfectly normal. Proceed to remove your genitalia - it's NORMAL!!!

lol

You mad I quoted something that made you look silly bro?

It makes sense that as someone who supports other people's delusions, you would be equally delusional.

Olive Oil wrote:

It makes sense that as someone who supports other people's delusions, you would be equally delusional.

Why you got such hate for Jenner? What did he/she ever do to you? You jealous bro?

jenner's dingaling wrote:

Olive Oil wrote:

It makes sense that as someone who supports other people's delusions, you would be equally delusional.

Why you got such hate for Jenner? What did he/she ever do to you? You jealous bro?

I have no hate for Jenner. I think he can do whatever he wants. I also think society can view him however it wants - I view him and others like him as suffering from an illness.

Is it hateful to call depression an illness? Anorexia? Schizophrenia?

Whatever, pal. If you need to run it through your PC / non-PC filter - go ahead. But, you're every bit as chained to the PC mentality that has twisted your shorts. Meanwhile, it doesn't matter. Reality intrudes - and you're still wrong on the facts.

alred wrote:

What I'm saying is that in your liberal elitism to 'CORRECT" everyone on gender and sex, you actually got the terms wrong (IF we are using liberal pc philosphy on these things)

You made pc mistakes in your post. If you are going to be pc at least be it.

Olive Oil wrote:

jenner's dingaling wrote:

Why you got such hate for Jenner? What did he/she ever do to you? You jealous bro?

I have no hate for Jenner. I think he can do whatever he wants. I also think society can view him however it wants - I view him and others like him as suffering from an illness.

Is it hateful to call depression an illness? Anorexia? Schizophrenia?

Now, I think this whole thing is a stupid circus on Jenner's side.

What is much more interesting to me is how the rest of the community is handling it. People are losing their shit! Huh?

jkdjflkjdlfkj wrote:

Whatever, pal. If you need to run it through your PC / non-PC filter - go ahead. But, you're every bit as chained to the PC mentality that has twisted your shorts. Meanwhile, it doesn't matter. Reality intrudes - and you're still wrong on the facts.

alred wrote:

What I'm saying is that in your liberal elitism to 'CORRECT" everyone on gender and sex, you actually got the terms wrong (IF we are using liberal pc philosphy on these things)

You made pc mistakes in your post. If you are going to be pc at least be it.

Youre the one who was attempting to get pc. You didn't do it right.

Hate to break it to you, but saying "you didn't do it right" is not PC.

Incorrect. Pc is a set of rules for how you talk, or think. If you stray from that set of rules, or philosophies, you didn't stay in compliance with pc.

Thats if you want to be pc. I don't, but at least i recognize when a pc policemen doesnt follow their own procedures.

I won

alred wrote:

Incorrect. Pc is a set of rules for how you talk, or think. If you stray from that set of rules, or philosophies, you didn't stay in compliance with pc.

Thats if you want to be pc. I don't, but at least i recognize when a pc policemen doesnt follow their own procedures.

I won

Telling people they did something wrong hurts people's feelings.

Hurting people's feelings is not PC.

Nobody wins now.

According to a psych professor I had a while back there has to be an element of real self danger or harm to others when distinguishing between mental illness and other "normal" human behavior. Genital mutilation is actually very common...for example circumcision. Starving purposely/ anorexia is dangerous and if other symptoms are met as outlined in the DSM can be classified as a mental illness. Jenner is at no more risk than anyone else who has plastic surgery.

Allow me to offer a balanced, unbiased opinion. I say shame on the people who hate Jenner. Hatred is a poison, and your hatred does nothing for society but poison it. That said, Jenner is clearly mentally ill, and his conduct should not be applauded. In fact, it should be criminalized and given very severe punishment. But that doesn't mean we don't simultaneously try to help him. Hitler deserved punishment, but can any of us say he didn't deserve to be treated with compassion. Is this not the same for Bruce?

Dkidkekdks wrote:

Hitler deserved punishment, but can any of us say he didn't deserve to be treated with compassion?

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I believe Bruce Jenner should be sentenced to 20 yr hard labour in a Chinatown sweat shop, manufacturing breast impants, starting blocks, and erasers for pencils.

I like the combination of those products