David Epstein/Pro Publica/BBC Story: Former Team Members Accuse Famed Coach Alberto Salazar of Breaking Drug Rules

In the Knope wrote:

ACEX wrote:

And more people will and are coming "out of the woodwork" on the people who spoke up against Alberto and Galan. There is a lot of skeletons in the closet for Magness, Goucher, ect.

This post cannot be overstated!! Just wait for it.....

(And letsrun, you might as well adopt the position right now.)

If Salazar was dirty to me that means the Gouchers were probably dirty as well. In fact, Salazar and Rupp could have always been clean, the Gouchers been dirty, and the Gouchers just envious and assuming that Salazar must have been doping Rupp and not giving them the same "juice."

oixhuiisuihsu wrote:

If Salazar was dirty to me that means the Gouchers were probably dirty as well. In fact, Salazar and Rupp could have always been clean, the Gouchers been dirty, and the Gouchers just envious and assuming that Salazar must have been doping Rupp and not giving them the same "juice."

Or it could have been that everyone was clean, Gouchers thought Rupp was dirty and were jealous....

This just shows why doping is so insidious. Once you think there's one doper, it's hard not to wonder about anyone.

longjack wrote:

*** probably prescribed, you'd think.

It's risky to assume here. There's no sanction unless USADA has an overwhelming pile of current evidence to go ahead without USATF/IAAF. That would be fun to watch, but not likely.

Doping is not illegal in the U.S. Al Sal can get his hands on many PEDs, use them on kids and adults, and no one will bother him. Putting them in the U.S. Mail system is a problem. But, a slap on the wrist for such an important man with important friends.

Bump... Sleezy Al needs to be exposed and taken down

rumor train wrote:

Er... wrote:

Agreed--this makes no sense. Salazar was providing an unfair advantage to some of his athletes but the most prominent female distance runner in America was an exception?

Friend heard from an a former NOP runner that Kara wasn't clean when she was with NOP, and left to clean up. I think that would be a much more interesting story, and if it's true, I wish she would tell it.

She's got Alberto in a double blind. If he outs her as doping, to prove she used the drugs or other drugs, then the finger points at him as conduit... Or so she'd better home no one was lingering around a corner, like Magness...

agip wrote:

rumor train wrote:

Friend heard from an a former NOP runner that Kara wasn't clean when she was with NOP, and left to clean up. I think that would be a much more interesting story, and if it's true, I wish she would tell it.

hard to sort the timing, but probably salazar's attitude was that if kara could medal without drugs, go to it. So probably salazar didn't propose anything fishy when Kara won a bronze in 2007 WC.

but after the baby and when she wasnt' running well...that's when salazar might have stepped in with the drug solutions.

again, I'm not sure on the timing.

You're not sure of the timing? But you're sure of the pure conjecture?

Lol. Just swallow a watermelon.

Marathon Talk podcast with the Mark Daly

http://www.marathontalk.com/podcast/episode_292_mark_daly_part_one.php

The doping scandal roles on, Martin and Tom speak to the BBC's investigative journalist Mark Daly and Nick Symmonds gets de-selected from the US team for the upcoming world championships. On a happier note, Wilson Kipsang and Tegla Loroupe go on a sponsored walk, we see the first ever Xempo MT t-shirt and you stand atop the Jabra podium.

MoGalen wrote:

Marathon Talk podcast with the Mark Daly

http://www.marathontalk.com/podcast/episode_292_mark_daly_part_one.php

The doping scandal roles on, Martin and Tom speak to the BBC's investigative journalist Mark Daly and Nick Symmonds gets de-selected from the US team for the upcoming world championships. On a happier note, Wilson Kipsang and Tegla Loroupe go on a sponsored walk, we see the first ever Xempo MT t-shirt and you stand atop the Jabra podium.

Ok Mr. Epstein, you bumped your fraud laden story. What next?

Yeah, we know you cooked up the Salazar story as a preemptive strike against the negative info that was coming to light about the sacrosanct Africans. You and your ilk are becoming too obvious.

Remember folks:

Goucher (Athlete) = Clean

Magness (Coach) = Clean

but

Rupp (Athlete) = Dirty

Salazar (Coach) = Dirty

Haha! You sometimes have to laugh. At least those who accused Lance Armstrong of doping had the decency to admit they participated in the doping or helped cover it up.

Wouldn't be surprised if USADA clear Salazar of any wrongdoing, considering how flimsy the allegations are.

If you knew anyone connected to Nike you'd be surprised.

Bartels Harley wrote:

MoGalen wrote:

Marathon Talk podcast with the Mark Daly

http://www.marathontalk.com/podcast/episode_292_mark_daly_part_one.php

The doping scandal roles on, Martin and Tom speak to the BBC's investigative journalist Mark Daly and Nick Symmonds gets de-selected from the US team for the upcoming world championships. On a happier note, Wilson Kipsang and Tegla Loroupe go on a sponsored walk, we see the first ever Xempo MT t-shirt and you stand atop the Jabra podium.

Ok Mr. Epstein, you bumped your fraud laden story. What next?

Yeah, we know you cooked up the Salazar story as a preemptive strike against the negative info that was coming to light about the sacrosanct Africans. You and your ilk are becoming too obvious.

Sacrosanct Africans? Really? Come back to reality.