If you could KNOW whether or not one runner doped/dopes, who would you pick?

Wejo

Rojo

Coe fan wrote:

Probably Coe because I admire him so much. His training was so rigorous, and he was so great at both 800m and 1500m on the world stage. I would really like to know if his intense training was the reason for his success rather than drugs.

Agree for the same reason. Lagat would be 2nd. Sadly (and fairly or not) I already assume El G was doping.

Nick Rogers

http://www.usatf.org/athletes/bios/TrackAndFieldArchive/2002/Rogers_Nick.asp

RuYouAfool!!! wrote:

The problem with you claim is, Lagat never failed a test. His sample was tampered with by an overzealous white male in charge of the sample.

In terms of you other claims: Mo Farah fits them to a tee, Lagat does not.

Farah has character flaws galore: Tweet fest, staying away from his wife and kids, anger management issues, lying about running with convicted dopers.

Farah raised an English flag after making a permanent residential change to the US. He is rarely in the US, and even rarer in the UK.

Farah runs with his pointy arms all akimbo. He shoves his way through his competitors after using them by sitting behind them; drafting.

etc.

etc.

etc.

the thing about farah that makes me think he is clean is that except for that 3:28 1500, he's never run particularly fast. He is the greatest championship runner of the last 7 years - somehow able to kick better than everyone else.

A drug guy would more likely be running some fast times, right? Not winning medals with huge kicks while running unspectacular times.

If you look at Mo's prs...he would be just another east african (except for that 1500.) But put in his medals and UK citizenship and he becomes an immortal.

that doesn't seem the pattern of a druggie.

I don't know why anyone would waste their pick on Bolt when it's so obvious that he already did.

agip wrote:

the thing about farah that makes me think he is clean...

This is where I stopped reading.

Mo's slow distance PRs have nothing to do with proof of not using 'enhancements'. He has been trained to sit and kick, and hold back what he is actually capable of. He has a ridiculous race closing. He can do near sub 4 1600m almost immediately after a big race. His 3:28 1500 revealed everything you need to know about how clean he is.

Well, you have to be in ridiculous shape to have enough left to kick like that. So it shows he was in shape to run stellar times. Think about it this way, if you want to not draw suspicion, then it is beneficial to NOT run a great time as to not draw attention. Kicking for the most part people don't understand and assume the winner was just fast.It is not the case it takes more than just speed.

Mo is so obvious it's barely worthy of discussion

He has the same glazed shiny appearance as bernie lagat

There are also many 'tells' of his doping facade while being interviewed

I would choose my HS ex-teammate John. He was always just a little better than me, and I really can't figure out how it could be anything other than dope. I was the hardest worker on the team and he could still beat me by over 20s in the mile! Despite running all the same workouts he ended HS with a 5:02 PR and I could only manage a 5:18. Just want to know if I got cheated all those years!

RuYouAfool!!! wrote:

The problem with you claim is, Lagat never failed a test. His sample was tampered with by an overzealous white male in charge of the sample.

In terms of you other claims: Mo Farah fits them to a tee, Lagat does not.

Farah has character flaws galore: Tweet fest, staying away from his wife and kids, anger management issues, lying about running with convicted dopers.

Farah raised an English flag after making a permanent residential change to the US. He is rarely in the US, and even rarer in the UK.

Farah runs with his pointy arms all akimbo. He shoves his way through his competitors after using them by sitting behind them; drafting.

etc.

etc.

etc.

This is a thorough, well argued point. I for one am convinced that Mo Farah is a sociopathic, doping monster. He should be detained immediately upon his entry to the US or the UK and shipped back to Somalia. Thank you for showing me the light.

webby wrote:

Makhloufi, for the sake of Manzano, and because he lied about being hurt to get reinstated in the 1500 in the first place.

Makhloufi's doping was the only reason Manzano got his medal; everyone tried to follow his jet-fuel powered move, and burned their matches before 100m to go. Only Manzano, who didn't try to follow, had gas in the last stretch.

El G, Geb, Bekele, Sihine, Kipchoge, Borzakovsky, Radcliffe, are all forgone conclusions to me. I wouldn't waste my genie wish on them.

Coe has mor plausible deniability, but is another that I say is too good to be true. Wouldn't waste the crystal ball on him.

Dave Bedford or Ryun would be my picks. WR at young ages: egregious doping or early physical maturity. Both in very unregulated times of doping, either steroids or blood doping.

Jessie Owens too. An unfortunate do or die situation for him to perform...

Marathon. wrote:

He has the same glazed shiny appearance as bernie lagat

yes, it's called 'running while black'

Lasse Viren

agip wrote:

the thing about farah that makes me think he is clean is that except for that 3:28 1500, he's never run particularly fast. He is the greatest championship runner of the last 7 years - somehow able to kick better than everyone else.

A drug guy would more likely be running some fast times, right? Not winning medals with huge kicks while running unspectacular times.

If you look at Mo's prs...he would be just another east african (except for that 1500.) But put in his medals and UK citizenship and he becomes an immortal.

that doesn't seem the pattern of a druggie.

Agreed: except for those fast times he's run, (3:28, 8:03WR, ER at 5000i, 10000m and HM), he hasn't run any fast times.

agip wrote:

Marathon. wrote:

He has the same glazed shiny appearance as bernie lagat

yes, it's called 'running while black'

I was joking, except about the interviews

It's a dead giveaway

Brad Wigins wrote:

RuKiddingMe!!! wrote:

Bernard Lagat without question! Failed an A Sample early in his Career....has character flaws, traitor, raised Kenyan flag as an American, takes cheap shots during races...etcc etc....this is your guy!

Funny how it's perfectly fine for white Americans to have Irish/Italian/pick-a-European-country pride despite never having been there, but as soon as someone shows pride in a non-white country (that they lived most of their life in), it becomes a problem.

He could be referring to when Lagat had already begun the US citizenship process but still ran for Kenya at the Olympics even though this shouldn't have been allowed.

LI Runner wrote:

Lasse Viren

THIS... WOOOSH.