wejo wrote:
Everyone is talking about the financial implications. Would a 2:0 woman be on a full ride to Stanford? What's Stanford cost per year? I think for that reason alone a lot of kids wouldn't quit. It could cost her $100,000+ to quit if she's on scholarship.
I don't think she or her family are worried about the cost of her education.
trustafari wrote:
For trustafarians like the brosjo, life never is about money. They never had to worry about it, work for it, and certainly never had to study for it. Flunk out, never learn to spell, spend their lives watching TV instead of going to a job, what does it matter? Daddy will always bail them out.
wejo wrote:No but he'll pass on his 49.5% ownership of LetsRun.com!
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trustafarian ( ) n.
any member of a social class of dependently wealthy people, generally ages eighteen to fifty, who attempt affecting lifestyles that conceal their affluence while still maintaining a life of leisure
The Donger wrote:
How is this possible and what is going wrong in Palo Alto?
Why are you asking about Palo Alto? We're talking about Stanford
say where wrote:
The Donger wrote:How is this possible and what is going wrong in Palo Alto?
Why are you asking about Palo Alto? We're talking about Stanford
Wow
not tru wrote:
No, you CAN use a "linear amount of time". All that your results are saying is that women's running is weaker. But physiologically, it is like a guy running 1:49.
No, you really can't. Women's times are more skewed to the right and don't follow a normal distribution. From a statistics standpoint, you can't use a linear amount of time for this reason, so you have to rank order times as a way to make up for the difference in population distributions. What you meant to say is "theoretically", which doesn't represent reality and the physiological differences (men being a more homogenous population than women). Physiologically, it's like a man who run 1:46.2, which is why this is a 'big deal' and has a now 4 page post about her.
reality check. wrote:
not tru wrote:No, you CAN use a "linear amount of time". All that your results are saying is that women's running is weaker. But physiologically, it is like a guy running 1:49.
No, you really can't. Women's times are more skewed to the right and don't follow a normal distribution. From a statistics standpoint, you can't use a linear amount of time for this reason, so you have to rank order times as a way to make up for the difference in population distributions. What you meant to say is "theoretically", which doesn't represent reality and the physiological differences (men being a more homogenous population than women). Physiologically, it's like a man who run 1:46.2, which is why this is a 'big deal' and has a now 4 page post about her.
No you can. I did not mean to say "theoretically". What YOU mean to say is " statistically competitively". I'm not using statistics, I'm talking about absolute reality. You are talking statistics. I'm talking physiology.
NOP Skeptic wrote:
say where wrote:Why are you asking about Palo Alto? We're talking about Stanford
Wow
Wow?
say where wrote:
NOP Skeptic wrote:Wow
Wow?
Most people don't know that Stanford University is not part of the city of Palo Alto (the university was founded before the city). It is technically located in an unincorporated area of Santa Clara county.
Sons of a Bush wrote:
trustafari wrote:For trustafarians like the brosjo, life never is about money. They never had to worry about it, work for it, and certainly never had to study for it. Flunk out, never learn to spell, spend their lives watching TV instead of going to a job, what does it matter? Daddy will always bail them out.
trustafarian ( ) n.
any member of a social class of dependently wealthy people, generally ages eighteen to fifty, who attempt affecting lifestyles that conceal their affluence while still maintaining a life of leisure
Rojo, I am very glad to hear that you don't think that money is important to you. Pleas send me the proceeds from your trust fund. Send me the money. I don't want to have a stinking job either. Send me your money. You won't miss it, I promise. I guarantee that I will put it to just as good use as you have. I really just want to sit around and watch a lot of TV and listen to Rush and Cowherd. Please send it as soon as possible because I have already worked tons more than you deem necessary.
Crowdfundmeagogo wrote:
Sons of a Bush wrote:trustafarian ( ) n.
any member of a social class of dependently wealthy people, generally ages eighteen to fifty, who attempt affecting lifestyles that conceal their affluence while still maintaining a life of leisure
Rojo, I am very glad to hear that you don't think that money is important to you. Pleas send me the proceeds from your trust fund. Send me the money. I don't want to have a stinking job either. Send me your money. You won't miss it, I promise. I guarantee that I will put it to just as good use as you have. I really just want to sit around and watch a lot of TV and listen to Rush and Cowherd. Please send it as soon as possible because I have already worked tons more than you deem necessary.
Crowdfundmeagogo wrote:
Sons of a Bush wrote:trustafarian ( ) n.
any member of a social class of dependently wealthy people, generally ages eighteen to fifty, who attempt affecting lifestyles that conceal their affluence while still maintaining a life of leisure
Rojo, I am very glad to hear that you don't think that money is important to you. Pleas send me the proceeds from your trust fund. Send me the money. I don't want to have a stinking job either. Send me your money. You won't miss it, I promise. I guarantee that I will put it to just as good use as you have. I really just want to sit around and watch a lot of TV and listen to Rush and Cowherd. Please send it as soon as possible because I have already worked tons more than you deem necessary.
POY. lmfao
Send him some of that cake, rojo, he deserves it.
In reply to the Cam Miller article on roster turnover, here it is:
http://www.stanforddaily.com/2013/05/20/inside-look-at-stanford-track-and-field-day-2/
My memory did not serve me all that well; Miller wrote this piece 2 years ago stating the roster reduction was 20%.
Responding to another prior post about post-collegiate running clubs in the Stanford area, after PattiSue Plummer was let go as women's coach when Milt arrived back in fall 2012, she became coach of the Stanford Track Club comprised (mostly, I believe) of Stanford students who still like to compete at long distances. A couple of guys who were "recruited walk-ons" with the McGorty-Keelan-Wharton class of fall 2013 decided not to continue with Milt's program and joined the STC.
From looking at this weekend's Husky Classic entries, former Stanford runners Michael Atchoo and Dylan Ferris are entered as members of the Strava TC. Have never heard of this group before. Anyone know? Ferris had been running with the New Balance Silicon Valley club for the past couple years.
Regarding Tom Graham, I only have 3rd hand info, something about differences with the coaching staff, decided to strike out on his own and has been doing very well as evidence by his 1:03+ Houston half-marathon last month. Guy obviously prefers to race long distances -- maybe doesn't even like racing on the track anymore -- so decided to start his post-collegiate road racing career a couple years early.
Another Stanford alumni who excelled in class and racing is Garrett Heath. Heath has stated he wants to be CEO of a start-up. To this end he got his masters then entered Stanford's PhD program. However, his post-collegiate racing continued to improve, so sometime in 2013 he put the PhD program on hold to become a full-time pro and maximize his running potential. You've seen the results. Whether that leads to an Olympic team or not, the future Dr. Heath made the right choice for him.
Unlike Garrett and other Stanford alumni like brother Elliott, the Halls, Chris Derrick, etc., Amy looked into her crystal ball and decided that postponing a lifelong computer-literature career to go full-in on a comparatively brief running career was not what she wanted. Unfortunately for us college running fans, she cut the running umbilical cord now rather than after graduating.
Here is an excerpt from Miller's 2013 article which pretty much says it all about why so many have left the program since Milt arrived:
"Miltenberg’s no-nonsense attitude is a stark contrast from the previous coaching staff and is something everyone has had to get used to."
"Amy looked into her crystal ball and decided that postponing a lifelong computer-literature career to go full-in on a comparatively brief running career was not what she wanted."
I'll bet you a buck that 10 years from now, Ms Weissenbach will be focusing on something other than computer-driven approaches to the study of literature.
not tru wrote:
No you can. I did not mean to say "theoretically". What YOU mean to say is " statistically competitively". I'm not using statistics, I'm talking about absolute reality. You are talking statistics. I'm talking physiology.
Bud, no you can't. You inappropriately applied statistics because you can't linearly compare a normal population to a non-normal population as you did. Again, what you did represents theory- NOT reality and physiology. Women have greater biological diversity. You have to rank order times to get around this.
Although the IAAF scoring table points technically weren't set up to make gender comparisons, the point value for 2:00.98 matches up to 1:46.18-1:46.22 for a man, thus supporting the Mercier calculator. 1:49 college guys are a dime a dozen, but not 2:00 college girls.
Well, I actually hope you are right.
Like one of the J-Bros posted above, I hope she gets bored with her life and goes back to running.
reality check. wrote:
Bud, no you can't. You inappropriately applied statistics because you can't linearly compare a normal population to a non-normal population as you did. Again, what you did represents theory- NOT reality and physiology. Women have greater biological diversity. You have to rank order times to get around this.
Although the IAAF scoring table points technically weren't set up to make gender comparisons, the point value for 2:00.98 matches up to 1:46.18-1:46.22 for a man, thus supporting the Mercier calculator. 1:49 college guys are a dime a dozen, but not 2:00 college girls.
You have a severe reading problem. I didn't apply any statistics. YOU did. My comparison does not use statistics. Read this several times until you finally understand: I'm not inappropriately applying statistics because I'm not applying statistics at all. You are the only one of us using statistics. I'm making a physiological comparison. You are making a statistical comparison.
However wrote:
stanny wrote:Hatton, Weissenbach, Graham, Sarah Robinson, Alli Billmeyer? Anymore? That's already a solid group.
Did Chelsey Sveinsson go to Stanford?
Yes. She did. As well as Annie ST. Geme.
You have a severe reading problem. I didn't apply any statistics. YOU did. My comparison does not use statistics. Read this several times until you finally understand: I'm not inappropriately applying statistics because I'm not applying statistics at all. You are the only one of us using statistics. I'm making a physiological comparison. You are making a statistical comparison.[/quote]
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Dude, you are talking about stats. You are making statistical insinuations, thus making your point mute!!
Stat man Sam wrote:
Dude, you are talking about stats. You are making statistical insinuations, thus making your point mute!!
I never said I wasn't talking about stats. I said I wasn't using stats. Exactly what do you think "insinuation" and "mute" mean?