Centrowitz/Sowinski target 1000m AR

Existing record is 2:16.76 (David Torrence).

Having seen Centro's 1200 leg (2:49 mid) yesterday, I'd have to pick him to win next week. His 1000m split yesterday looked to be around 2:21 but he looked very comfortable. I think he'll grab it in 2:16 low in a good race, or narrowly miss it in 2:17 low in a bad one.

think they could hit Ngeny's WR of 2:11.96? A guy can dream right?

cool kid wrote:

think they could hit Ngeny's WR of 2:11.96? A guy can dream right?

Wrong season. Ngeny's best indoors was 2:17.

Problem is, Centro always looks comfortable. Think 1000 is a little long for Sowinski, definitely more in Centro's wheelhouse. Who knows though

cool kid wrote:think they could hit Ngeny's WR of 2:11.96? A guy can dream right?

that really was a really poor run from him, compared to 1s+ faster he shouda ideally run if not running a ridiculous 6+m extra in 1st 200m, still splitting a suicidal 49.8+ & with a 3'29.1 crumbling his legs from just 44 hours before !!!

1k times are very weak due to infrequency of event

Kip's 2'14.9i is a decent wr

( it's probably worth ~ 2'12-flat/low outdoors based on

adjusted from 1'41.11 / 1'42.67i in same season but latter had no pacing & after rounds, whilst former was no way as good as his 1'41.24 prior off suicidal 23.0/48.3 !!! )

i'm not going to speculate on indoors, but for outdoors, any 1'44.0 / 3'32.0 guy shoud be potentially capable of :

2'14.1

multiply by suggested 2'14.9/2'12-flat/low for indoors suggests a "potential" time for these guys at

~ 2'17.0

Agree with the a little long for Erik and a tad short for Centrowitz idea but Sowinski is still gaining sprint speed endurance along with general stamina from training and racing at a high level.. I feel the 600 yards was the very top of Eriks sweet spot out of college and as of last year am thinking the top of his sweet spot extends past 800m maybe even 850m..

With Centrowitz his range is really great and at this point 1000m might be just at the lower end of that range..

It's ondoor and track skills will play a roll as will who else gets on the track, Fill the lanes with 600-800 guys and you have one race. Fill the lanes with 1500/milers and you get another.

One of the reasons I love Indoor 600,&1000 races..

I have trouble believing that a fit Centro and Sowinski can't run a 1000m faster than Torrence. The real question is if it will be paced.

This is one record still available for Andrews' talents. This is his wheel house distance apparently , even running 2:22.xx in HS

I could see him getting this record, he did run 2:17.90 in 2013. He could get by in just a shade under 1:50 and make this work I think. I do not know if this is on his radar?

He still has not yet turned 24 years old, I still hope for the best out of his monster talent.

Don't expect him to improve with his penchant for pizza, jogging with his sister, and overt laziness.

dudeskis wrote:

I have trouble believing that a fit Centro and Sowinski can't run a 1000m faster than Torrence. The real question is if it will be paced.

Agree

While I do not believe 1000m is an ideal distance for either.2;16.x should be with-in reach for both of them in a race with agreeable splits and tactics.

Can we get a source for this actually being a record attempt?

Sometimes the Nike guys get blamed for hyping something when really it's just a half-substantiated rumor started somewhere like this.

It's amazing that the brojos are actually the most reliable source of elite track and field news.

true but... wrote:

Problem is, Centro always looks comfortable.

So true.

dudeskis wrote:

I have trouble believing that a fit Centro and Sowinski can't run a 1000m faster than Torrence. The real question is if it will be paced.

Torrence is actually faster than Centro, though, over 800. And his 5k is faster as well. His 15 should be faster than it is. He's two seconds slower than Centro over 1500.

Battle Royale wrote:

Next week.

Who wins and how fast?

What meet? When?

where when? wrote:

Battle Royale wrote:

Next week.

Who wins and how fast?

What meet? When?

New Balance Indoor Grand Prix in Boston. Meet is on Saturday, race is at 6:12 p.m. on NBC Sports Network.

ventolin^3 wrote:

cool kid wrote:think they could hit Ngeny's WR of 2:11.96? A guy can dream right?

that really was a really poor run from him, compared to 1s+ faster he shouda ideally run if not running a ridiculous 6+m extra in 1st 200m, still splitting a suicidal 49.8+ & with a 3'29.1 crumbling his legs from just 44 hours before !!!

Ngeny has not run 6+m extra, which was told you many times before. Which seems to be beyond your imagination, is that when running on a tangent to the circle, someone runs no extra meters. Regardless on which lane he starts. No need to start again with your nonsense use of some sort of medium (arithmetic or geometric). I think you can understand this (also I'm not sure about it). But I know you will not admit how wrong you were on this issue.

What is to see from the video of the race is that Ngeny has run something like 2m extra - at most.

Umm...what about Oscar Pistorius?

Les wrote:

dudeskis wrote:

I have trouble believing that a fit Centro and Sowinski can't run a 1000m faster than Torrence. The real question is if it will be paced.

Torrence is actually faster than Centro, though, over 800. And his 5k is faster as well. His 15 should be faster than it is. He's two seconds slower than Centro over 1500.

Torrence ran a super 1200 at PENN a couple of years back ( 2:48 low) also. He never runs well when you expect it though. Many 1500's just never come together for him..

1000 is too long for Sowinski. He'll break down and run a 2:19.xx and Centro will win in 2:18.0x or so. No record

yes he did which you have been told many times

only if they get into lane 1 quickly

he never got into lane 1 the whole bend

clearly you have no clue about geometry

clearly any sort of mathematical analysis is beyond you

the average of running all in outer-4 with all in lane 2 is ~8.75m

knock off ~ 1.25m+ for staggered start ahead of perpendicular ->

~ 7.5m

i have been ungenerous & called it

6+m

again lack of maths from you

he started in outer lane 4 & never got into lane 1 until straight

he spent bend going from outter-4 to lane 2

he shouda been in lane 1 within 20 or 30m of start from outer-4, not failing to do so in whole 116m of bend

no

he ran ~ 8m+ extra on bend but given ~ 1.25m advantage as this was his waterfall start ahead of perpendicular to track, meaning net of ungenerous

~ 6m+