Props to sage for calling out kip Litton in his book!
Props to sage for calling out kip Litton in his book!
The people who race 10ks, race marathons, race ultras.
The people who run 10ks, run marathons, run ultras.
Get it?
go ahead and try if you can run WS100 - a top 10 finish there is arguably tougher than a 1:4x 800
Lots of people run ultras. Just like elite marathoners won't have the speed of a 1500 guy, ultra runners are slower because they too have to run greater distances. Guys run 5 k's because they don't have the speed to run 800's. Guys run 800's because they don't have the speed for the 100. Everyone has their sweet spot. Why do you idiots insist on belittling people for the event they want to do? Let's put Sage against Wilson Kipsang in a 50 miler. My bet is on Sage. Maybe Sage doesn't have the speed to run sub 2:10 marathons, like Farah doesn't have the speed to run 400s. It doesn't belittle his accomplishments. What idiots like you continue to show is that you are jealous you don't have the balls to train to run ultras. It really shows.
800 m wrote:
I get tired of these ultra guys bragging about their supposed great workouts. If these guys were good, they'd be racing to win big money marathons - but they are not, because they aren't that good. Find a distance that no one runs and then call yourself the world champion.
S. Canaday wrote:
Okay I'll bite.
First off, Rojo (and JK and Weldon for that matter) got me where I am today. I learned a lot from them. I always question my coaches (hs, college, hansons, etc.)..and of course that's why I coach myself now! Rojo let me run a marathon in college and it changed the direction of my career. It really opened up a lot of doors and I was very happy with how my college career panned out. I was a 4:30 miler in hs and have little talent.
My book "Running for the Hansons" is pretty bad as a self published "memoir". I'm a horrible writer. It has typos in it and I wrote it when I was even more immature than I am today (believe it or not) . It was a dark period in my life: I was drinking 2 Siberian Night Imperial stouts a night and eating shitty Jets or Hungry Howie pizza! That being said, there is a lot of truth in there...I tried to be objective and I picked the minds of runners I respected like Brian Sell. The training and lifestyle parts were what was real to me at the time. I wanted to provide a first-person take and examine things that magazine articles always seem to gloss over (i.e. they are way too positive IMO).
I post 100% of my training on Strava. I'm training for the LA Marathon in 6 weeks and would be very happy with an OT. 2:14 is likely beyond me, but a 2:17 would be really nice. I could run like sh!t and go 2:20...but I'll try my best off of 11 weeks of training total. As far as the 8-9min miles go...um, maybe that was yesterday in 3" snow on icy trails? I don't really care what the pace is on easy days on the trails. Usually things are around 7min low pace on the bike path and I'll make sure to get some Long Runs with a bunch of miles around 6 flat and then some miles sub 5:30. Most workouts (LT repeats of 2-3 miles) have been going in 5:10-5:20 pace, but granted it's at altitude and Boulder can be a bit cold/snowy. If you're interested in my training (and yes this is a self promotional plug) just check out my YouTube channel as I'm posting a video series about training for an OT. There will be lots of workouts covered. Anyway, I wish you the best with your training and future races.
Class response, Sage. Rooting for you all the way. Just ordered your book. Will start reading it on my Kindle tonight. Thanks and best wishes!
Ben
He ran a 2:20:02 in the LA marathon.
S. Canaday wrote:
My book "Running for the Hansons" is pretty bad as a self published "memoir". I'm a horrible writer. It has typos in it and I wrote it when I was even more immature than I am today (believe it or not) . It was a dark period in my life: I was drinking 2 Siberian Night Imperial stouts a night and eating shitty Jets or Hungry Howie pizza!
Sage,
I think you are being way to hard on yourself. You were young and may have made some silly mistakes that we all made at that age. But you must have done an awful lot right. YOU RAN DAMN FAST. You should be proud of how fast you ran in the marathon at such a young age.
I also liked your videos better when you were doing your build up for the 2012 trials. They were more relatable for me. I wish you would pursue the marathon and see how fast you could run without the beer and pizza and a little more maturity.
Wishing you luck in whatever you do.
Lousy diet, lousy coaching, lousy living situation, Lifetime best time for the marathon. Something doesn't add up.
Interesting take wrote:
Lousy diet, lousy coaching, lousy living situation, Lifetime best time for the marathon. Something doesn't add up.
This is Letsrun, so of course it was only a matter of time before someone would throw out a PED accusation.
I read it differently.
Hello, Sage, I have a few questions regarding training for you. I have kind of a unique case, and I was wondering where I could personally reach you via E-mail. If you wouldn't mind giving me that information I'd appreciate it immensely. Thanks!
I’m a D2 female runner. Our coach explicitly told us not to visit LetsRun forums.
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
2024 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion
adizero Road to Records with Yomif Kejelcha, Agnes Ngetich, Hobbs Kessler & many more is Saturday
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!