Galen Rupp tested FIFTEEN TIMES by USADA in 2014. More than ANYONE in distance running. Is somthing up?

Ask yourself. Would Rupp go out of his way to say \"on record\" that any or his competitor\'s are clean. Why would he? Why would anyone do that? How do I know you are not a serial killer? Or a crack dealer? I\'m certainly not going to say you are not.

Bliss is not ignorant wrote:

Go Galen Go wrote:

I feel really sorry for you. I just don\'t understand what could cause such anger for no reason.

Galen got tested a lot because he raced a lot, and he went for records. End of story.

Are you so out of things that you believe this or are you just trolling? I challenge you to find 1 competitor of Rupp\'s that believes he is clean. ONE in the entire world that is willing to go on record and say that he believes that Rupp is clean.

Field & Track Athletes wrote:

Those aren't real tests. USADA/WADA are operated by the athletics federations. It's the same as having N.Y.P.D. investigate murders by their own cops. We've demanded independent testing and sunshine for the past 100 years and USATF/IAAF refuses us.

OLD STORY. WADA/USADA's protocols are well known way ahead of time. Every clinician, agent, and coach knows how to get under their guys under the radar. Like Victor Conte says in his book, there's sooo much advanced notice, it's simple to lower your numbers. You have to be an idiot to get busted by WADA/USADA.

dog is on my side. wrote:

OP, gimme a break, he had at least 15 races where he would have been potentially tested

1. He absolutely didn't run 15 races in 2014.

2. As already pointed out^, this is only through three quarters of 2014. There will obviously be more still.

Sorry, fanboy. If it was about frequency or quality of racing, Simpson would be tested like crazy. But that's not what gets you tested.

I'll say it again: This is a massive outlier, any way you slice it. This just can not be denied but anyone who can read numbers.

Actually, you know who else was tested ALMOST as much? 12 tests for Mo Trafeh in 2013.

yupyupyupp wrote:

Anyone who has read Alberto's white paper is aware that NOP pushes the use of performance enhancing substances to the legal limit, as obviously the USADA is, and the repeated testing and passing demonstrates they are indeed respecting the limit

Well, that was an interesting argument when Lance Armstrong made it...

Easy to get Under the Radar wrote:

Field & Track Athletes wrote:

Those aren't real tests. USADA/WADA are operated by the athletics federations. It's the same as having N.Y.P.D. investigate murders by their own cops. We've demanded independent testing and sunshine for the past 100 years and USATF/IAAF refuses us.

OLD STORY. WADA/USADA's protocols are well known way ahead of time. Every clinician, agent, and coach knows how to get under their guys under the radar. Like Victor Conte says in his book, there's sooo much advanced notice, it's simple to lower your numbers. You have to be an idiot to get busted by WADA/USADA.

Even for unannounced testing? They don't get a heads up for that.

I was talking with one of the agents who came to my house and they said they are currently tracking down Kenyans in the US and showing up unannounced. They can test anyone, anytime and if you refuse, it's a ban.

Bad Wigins wrote:

agip wrote:

Except for J Simpson - weird that she only was tested twice.

And she WON a Diamond League race which Rupp has NEVER done.

I'm not sure Rupp has ever even earned a DL point.

Rupp has NEVER won a single major international race. Period.

800 dude wrote:

Bad Wigins

And she WON a Diamond League race which Rupp has NEVER done.

I'm not sure Rupp has ever even earned a DL point.

comparing women's steeple to men's 5k isn't really fair.

Simpson raced the 1500 in 2014, not the steeple. Get some facts before you start babbling.

rupp-certified saladbar wrote:

800 dude wrote:

comparing women's steeple to men's 5k isn't really fair.

Simpson raced the 1500 in 2014, not the steeple. Get some facts before you start babbling.

Yeah, for some reason I thought he was talking about Coburn. Wasn't reading carefully.

rupp-certified saladbar wrote:

Massive outlier, any way you slice it.

Incorrect. Higher-ranked athletes are tested more. You might have missed it but Rupp was the World leader at 10,000 this year. Compare him to some other World #1 runners and you'd have a valid inference....

Or instead, maybe you can just keep logging onto a message board anonymously to pursue your weird obsession.

Dude, there is no such thing as 'unannounced [drug] testing'. USADA/WADA, NFL, MLB, FIFA, DoD, FAA, etc. lets everyone the exact list of substances they test for. Clinicians simply inject their athletes with PEDs not on the list. It's that easy.

rupp-certified saladbar wrote:

Rupp has NEVER won a single major international race. Period.

The Prefontaine Classic is a major international meet. Get some facts before you start babbling, to quote some dingleberry.

sc42 wrote:

rupp-certified saladbar wrote:

Massive outlier, any way you slice it.

Incorrect. Higher-ranked athletes are tested more. You might have missed it but Rupp was the World leader at 10,000 this year. Compare him to some other World #1 runners and you'd have a valid inference....

Or instead, maybe you can just keep logging onto a message board anonymously to pursue your weird obsession.

Well Jenny Simpson was ranked #1 in the 1500 for 2014 and she was only tested twice... So your logic is invalid.

Simpson is the outlier, Einstein.

sc42 wrote:

rupp-certified saladbar wrote:

Rupp has NEVER won a single major international race. Period.

The Prefontaine Classic is a major international meet. Get some facts before you start babbling, to quote some dingleberry.

97402 wrote:

Pre is NOT a 'major'. It's an IAAF TV "filler" meet, PR, or touring meeting.

Have you heard of the Diamond League?

Couple examples...

Men's Bowerman Mile Pl. Athlete / Team Cnt. Birth Result Score 1. Ayanleh SOULEIMAN DJI 92 3:47.32 1236 WL, PB 2. Silas KIPLAGAT KEN 89 3:47.88 1228 PB 3. Aman WOTE ETH 84 3:48.60 1219 PB 4. Abdelaati IGUIDER MAR 87 3:49.09 1213 PB 5. James Kiplagat MAGUT KEN 90 3:49.43 1208 PB 6. Collins CHEBOI KEN 87 3:49.56 1207 PB 7. Asbel KIPROP KEN 89 3:50.26 1197 SB 8. Matthew CENTROWITZ USA 89 3:50.53 1194 PB 9. Johan CRONJE RSA 82 3:50.70 1192 PB 10. Bethwell BIRGEN KEN 88 3:51.12 1186 SB 11. Taoufik MAKHLOUFI ALG 88 3:52.16 1173 PB 12. Mekonnen GEBREMEDHIN ETH 88 3:53.22 1159 SB 13. Henrik INGEBRIGTSEN NOR 91 3:53.62 1154 PB 14. Will LEER USA 85 3:56.72 1115 SB

Men's 800m Pl. Athlete / Team Cnt. Birth Result Score 1. Nijel AMOS BOT 94 1:43.63 1216 WL 2. Mohammed AMAN ETH 94 1:43.99 1204 SB 3. Abubaker KAKI SUD 89 1:44.09 1201 SB 4. Pierre-Ambroise BOSSE FRA 92 1:44.44 1191 SB 5. Adam KSZCZOT POL 89 1:44.65 1184 SB 6. Marcin LEWANDOWSKI POL 87 1:44.79 1180 SB 7. David RUDISHA KEN 88 1:44.87 1177 SB 8. Andrew OSAGIE GBR 88 1:45.37 1162 SB 9. Alfred KIPKETER KEN 96 1:46.15 1139 10. Duane SOLOMON USA 84 1:47.40 1101

Men's 400m Pl. Athlete / Team Cnt. Birth Result Score 1. Kirani JAMES GRN 92 43.97 1252 WL 2. LaShawn MERRITT USA 86 43.97 1252 WL 3. Youssef Ahmed MASRAHI KSA 87 44.77 1196 SB 4. Christopher BROWN BAH 78 45.15 1169 SB 5. Josh MANCE USA 92 45.31 1158 SB 6. Martyn ROONEY GBR 87 45.52 1144 SB 7. Tony MCQUAY USA 90 46.25 1095

sc42 wrote:

97402 wrote:

Pre is NOT a 'major'. It's an IAAF TV "filler" meet, PR, or touring meeting.

Have you heard of the Diamond League?

the rupp-certified AR 10,000 was not a DL race.

Easy to get Under the Radar wrote:

Dude, there is no such thing as 'unannounced [drug] testing'. USADA/WADA, NFL, MLB, FIFA, DoD, FAA, etc. lets everyone the exact list of substances they test for. Clinicians simply inject their athletes with PEDs not on the list. It's that easy.

Incorrect

You can get a ban later for peds not currently on the list

As a previous poster said, there is an APB for the large number of suspected Kenyan dopers currently at large

Coach.. wrote:

Easy to get Under the Radar wrote:

Dude, there is no such thing as 'unannounced [drug] testing'. USADA/WADA, NFL, MLB, FIFA, DoD, FAA, etc. lets everyone the exact list of substances they test for. Clinicians simply inject their athletes with PEDs not on the list. It's that easy.

Incorrect

You can get a ban later for peds not currently on the list

As a previous poster said, there is an APB for the large number of suspected Kenyan dopers currently at large

False. There's no tests for many human performance enhancing drugs, hormones, and steroids in use today.

Whatever's going on with Rupp, Simpson and Jager are the more alarming cases. Only USADA tested twice all year, and these are some of the best runners in the country-- no wonder people say it's easy to avoid testing positive. How many times would these guys be tested by WADA?