Attempting to have a civil debate with TRex is fruitless. He has a god complex with a massive ego to match. He is the best ranter on here, bar none.
Attempting to have a civil debate with TRex is fruitless. He has a god complex with a massive ego to match. He is the best ranter on here, bar none.
The burden of proof is on the shoulders of the prosecution for both the grand jury and at trial, no (not 100% sure of the legal process so just making sure)? I don't see how the prosecution would have any chance in a trial if there wasn't a defense at the grand jury and it didn't result in a trial. It just would seem at that point that a guilty verdict would be unattainable. Unless somehow certain evidence was able to be suppressed.
Yes, burden of proof is on the prosecution in a grand jury and trial. Grand juries decide whether there is a minimum threshold level of evidence to proceed to trial. The step is meant to deter overzealous or corrupt prosecutors (i.e., the state) from abusing power. Again, a grand jury isn't a trial. It has a very different function. Prosecutors run the show - no judge, no defense counsel. They don't put on an entire case either. Usually they sketch out a theory of the case (with the intent to convince the grand jury of probable cause) and present some evidence in support. They don't cross examine defense witnesses or call the defendant. The grand jury decides if there's enough evidence to merit going to trial. It doesn't decide a defendant's guilt or innocence. The prosecutor in the Ferguson case acted more as a defense attorney than prosecutor by "presenting all sides" and allowing Wilson 4 hrs of unchallenged testimony to persuade the grand jury. He acted in a very unusual manner. He didn't try to convince the grand jury of probable cause. That is the problem. Again, if you are accused of a criminal act, don't expect the prosecutor to present your side of the story to the grand jury, let alone allow you to do it.
get used to it.. wrote:
The burden of proof is on the shoulders of the prosecution for both the grand jury and at trial, no (not 100% sure of the legal process so just making sure)? I don't see how the prosecution would have any chance in a trial if there wasn't a defense at the grand jury and it didn't result in a trial. It just would seem at that point that a guilty verdict would be unattainable. Unless somehow certain evidence was able to be suppressed.
It may be unusual for grand juries, but if the prosecution believes the potential defendant acted inappropriately, and the defendant was actually there during the shooting, why not give the potential defendant a chance to say what happened. He is a witness too. It gives the grand jury a chance to see how what the potential defendant says relative to other eye witnesses. Had Wilson given his side, and didn't have people who had the same account, or if his account didn't match the autopsy, this would look badly on him. I don't see a problem with him being questioned. If you actually want to find out what happened, you should hear from everyone who was there. Just my thoughts, but I haven't been part of a grand jury so I don't know if there is a standard or not. i would think if there were a standard, and it was breached, the prosecutor/DA could be sued for legal malpractice?
get used to it.. wrote:
i would think if there were a standard, and it was breached, the prosecutor/DA could be sued for legal malpractice?
He works for the state/county/city or whoever elects the DA in Ferguson. He has almost impenetrable prosecutorial immunity.
get used to it.. wrote:
Yes, you are race baiting with the thug comment.
Wrong...YET again. I am quoting you racist idiots. THUG is your goddamned favorite word in the world referencing black people bar none. You basically said about ALL the people in ferguson who were nearby when the shooting occurred (Regardless of if they committed a crime)- "THEY ARE ALL THUGS AS FAR AS AS I AM CONCERNED." Your basic words. You also agreed with the comment that: "Black people stop making excuses, you are a bunch of thugs." Again, in reference to black people IN GENERAL, not just the ones who are criminals.
get used to it.. wrote: I refer to anyone who gets what they want by force to be a thug, regardless of race.
Please point to a SINLGE instance where you referred to a white person as a "thug" on this site? well? There have been plenty of opportunities, plenty of times where some "libtard" maybe brought up a story about a white person committing a horrific crime. Let's see where you slammed the "thug." OR.....did you ignore it, or maybe say or write instead: hey, that's nothing black thugs do that every day and twice on sunday? Prove me wrong.
get used to it.. wrote:The word "ape" has never ever escaped my mouth when referencing a black person or black people.
interesting choice of words: "escaped my mouth".....hmm.....has it ever been typed by you? I wonder. In one second I found an example of a right wing ultra $hit, "dial it up" referring to the Ferguson protestors as "recreating planet of the APES." some posters call him out on it (BTW, *THAT* was their point you seemed to miss, that it was classless to make that "joke" ). What do you do? Agree that it's a racist statement? No of course not, you DEFEND "dial it up" and say his critics "have no point."
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=6144659&page=1So...so far at least, no not you (as far as we know) calling blacks apes, but you immediately jump in to defend someone who does.
get used to it.. wrote: Yesterday you had the balls to say something about me not being classy, then proceeded to say things you thought would be derogatory about my partner and I. But you were wrong. And talk about classless! The only thing I would ever have the nerve to say about your wife is she must be a saint for putting up with the likes of you.
Oh, suddenly you have standards of "class" ??? F'n hilarious. You've insulted me every possible way you could imagine. And you want examples of RACIST and CLASSLESS? Here you go:
You get into with Dennis Renyolds (who is, or purports to be, black, right?). And what do you say to him?
" you probably have 10 kids you never see to 10 different women." Yeah, and you're "NOT a racist" ?! (and I've seen you say racist things to other black posters on here) You f'n lying sack of manure. That's what you assume about black people, huh? well you know what, I assume you are an AIDS-ridden, wasting away gay whore, who goes to bath houses and lets 100 anonymous fat old gay men jack off on his face on a daily basis, and will suck any dick put in front of him, especially little boys. Did I get the queer stereotypes right? Is it wrong for me to assume that about you? You are gay, right? this is what you claim, and this is what my right wing cop friends told me about gays (cops HATE gays by the way), so don't blame me, this is just what I heard. And since you don't mind stereotypes, that's what I assume about you. What a sick person you are, to engage in such behavior. Sick, sick, sick.
It is unusual - highly unusual, to allow a defendant to present their version of events unchallenged before a grand jury. I'd argue, it's clear evidence of the prosecutor's intent to derail the prosecution of Wilson while deflecting blame from himself. A defendant has the opportunity to provide their version of events to the police / legal authorities upon arrest and or during the subsequent investigation. The prosecutor will consider the defendant's account when deciding whether to convene a grand jury. If they believe there is probable cause, they present a one sided argument to indict to the grand jury. In fact, even if the grand jury decides not to indict, the prosecutor can still take the case to trial if he/she believes it's merited. Grand jury is not a jury trial. Why not just give the defendant a trial before the actual trial while we're at it? Wilson received special treatment. Plain and simple.
get used to it.. wrote:
It may be unusual for grand juries, but if the prosecution believes the potential defendant acted inappropriately, and the defendant was actually there during the shooting, why not give the potential defendant a chance to say what happened. He is a witness too. It gives the grand jury a chance to see how what the potential defendant says relative to other eye witnesses. Had Wilson given his side, and didn't have people who had the same account, or if his account didn't match the autopsy, this would look badly on him. I don't see a problem with him being questioned. If you actually want to find out what happened, you should hear from everyone who was there. Just my thoughts, but I haven't been part of a grand jury so I don't know if there is a standard or not. i would think if there were a standard, and it was breached, the prosecutor/DA could be sued for legal malpractice?
Tyrannosaurus Rexing wrote:
common sense, dude wrote:Link please. Did they testify?
Actual video of their reactions minutest after the shooting:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/10/us/ferguson-michael-brown-shooting-witnesses/White contractors, not from Ferguson, basically echoing Brown's buddy's testimony. This wasn't reported on Fox News? I'm shocked! Because these guys are are MUCH less credible than that bipolar, lying, sack of white trash that they DID have on repeatedly to report her "eyewitness testimony." Why did they talk to these guys? I am sure they would gone on? Seriously, ask yourself: why? I mean, Fox is "Fair and Balanced", right? And you wonder why (intelligent) people rip on Fox mercilessly.
Feeling like you might have rushed to judgement on Brown? Naaaah, he's a thug (i.e. african american), he deserved to die.
"Oh the hurt...THE HURT...my butt...it HUUURRRTs!!! :(......
get used to it.. wrote:
Browns brains came out of his head, but if you were shot in the head, I swear nothing would come out but $hit.
You ignore the strong arm robbery. That makes him a thug by definition. Look it up. And you are race baiting again with this "he's a thug (i.e. African American). White people can be thugs too. But you want to focus on the race because it makes you feel better.
Tyrannosaurus Rexing wrote:Actual video of their reactions minutest after the shooting:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/10/us/ferguson-michael-brown-shooting-witnesses/White contractors, not from Ferguson, basically echoing Brown's buddy's testimony. This wasn't reported on Fox News? I'm shocked! Because these guys are are MUCH less credible than that bipolar, lying, sack of white trash that they DID have on repeatedly to report her "eyewitness testimony." Why did they talk to these guys? I am sure they would gone on? Seriously, ask yourself: why? I mean, Fox is "Fair and Balanced", right? And you wonder why (intelligent) people rip on Fox mercilessly.
Feeling like you might have rushed to judgement on Brown? Naaaah, he's a thug (i.e. african american), he deserved to die.
I know exactly what happened in the Brown Shooting! I was giving BJ's for a nickel and saw the whole thing out of the corner of my eye. Granted my eyeballs were drizzled in man juice but I know what I saw you racist redneck. I was there, on my knees...all day long!
Tyrannnosarus Rexing wrote:
I know exactly what happened in the Brown Shooting! I was giving BJ's for a nickel and saw the whole thing out of the corner of my eye. Granted my eyeballs were drizzled in man juice but I know what I saw you racist redneck. I was there, on my knees...all day long!
You are very confused, fake T Rex. I am the gay guy, I've been very open about this. T Rex...I don't know, I assume he is straight.
By the way, you have an uncanny way of showing up out of nowhere, as if you were already on the thread posting as someone else.........;-) (we gays like to wink)
Everyone here, especially the racists on the board (yes that's you "get used to it," you're probably a cop too, huh?), seems all too eager to jump off on the tangent of whether or not Michael Brown deserved to die, or did Officer Wilson act incorrectly, when the title of the thread is something else entirely. Let me say this: Michael Brown was not guilty of a capital offense (for those of you who need it spelled out, that means he didn't need to die) and Officer Wilson most certaintly, no matter how you look at it, harassed Michael Brown with an incorrect use of authority, overstepped his bounds as an officer of the law, and executed Michael Brown with an incorrect use of force. This is the all too common saga of our "law enforcement." However, the point of this thread is not to rehash all of this, but to point out the flaws in the judicial process which let a criminal walk free. Stay on topic, take this new information, and call for justice for Michael Brown and all the other innocent people who have been victims of our corrupt police system and our broken government.
get used to it. wrote:
Tyrannnosarus Rexing wrote:I know exactly what happened in the Brown Shooting! I was giving BJ's for a nickel and saw the whole thing out of the corner of my eye. Granted my eyeballs were drizzled in man juice but I know what I saw you racist redneck. I was there, on my knees...all day long!
You are very confused, fake T Rex. I am the gay guy, I've been very open about this. T Rex...I don't know, I assume he is straight.
By the way, you have an uncanny way of showing up out of nowhere, as if you were already on the thread posting as someone else.........;-) (we gays like to wink)
Stop trying to patronize me you straight homophobe red neck.
No one is as much a fagg0t as me, the REAL T-REX. I take being a fagg0t as a badge of honor! I can't suk enough d1ck ..It is the liberal way! Gay and Proud.
f*** da police wrote:
Everyone here, especially the racists on the board (yes that's you "get used to it," you're probably a cop too, huh?), seems all too eager to jump off on the tangent of whether or not Michael Brown deserved to die, or did Officer Wilson act incorrectly, when the title of the thread is something else entirely. Let me say this: Michael Brown was not guilty of a capital offense (for those of you who need it spelled out, that means he didn't need to die) and Officer Wilson most certaintly, no matter how you look at it, harassed Michael Brown with an incorrect use of authority, overstepped his bounds as an officer of the law, and executed Michael Brown with an incorrect use of force. This is the all too common saga of our "law enforcement." However, the point of this thread is not to rehash all of this, but to point out the flaws in the judicial process which let a criminal walk free. Stay on topic, take this new information, and call for justice for Michael Brown and all the other innocent people who have been victims of our corrupt police system and our broken government.
A strong arm THUG attacked the po-po and was a recipient of .40cal bullets to the dome.
Play stupid games and win stupid prizes.
This was the best justice...STREET JUSTICE.
Case closed.
Justice Served wrote:
A strong arm THUG attacked the po-po and was a recipient of .40cal bullets to the dome.
Play stupid games and win stupid prizes.
This was the best justice...STREET JUSTICE.
Case closed.
I'll make sure to remember your definition of justice next time I see a cop, cause the only good cop is a dead cop, a**hole. It's important to identify the real thugs, you know, the ones who control a city through intimidation and covert processes. You guessed it, the f***ing pigs. Just because you identify any young male, especially one of a minority, as a "THUG" does not make them one. And before you go and say "Michael Brown strongarmed a store owner and stole stuff off him" or some crap like that, do a little fact checking. Fact checking everyone would do well to perform. Officer Wilson, by his own admission, did not know of Michael Brown as a criminal. He did not even know there had been a robbery at a store. All he had to go off was Michael Brown was young, male, and black. Good enough to put him in the "THUG" category though I guess.
f*** da police wrote:
Justice Served wrote:A strong arm THUG attacked the po-po and was a recipient of .40cal bullets to the dome.
Play stupid games and win stupid prizes.
This was the best justice...STREET JUSTICE.
Case closed.
I'll make sure to remember your definition of justice next time I see a cop, cause the only good cop is a dead cop, a**hole. It's important to identify the real thugs, you know, the ones who control a city through intimidation and covert processes. You guessed it, the f***ing pigs. Just because you identify any young male, especially one of a minority, as a "THUG" does not make them one. And before you go and say "Michael Brown strongarmed a store owner and stole stuff off him" or some crap like that, do a little fact checking. Fact checking everyone would do well to perform. Officer Wilson, by his own admission, did not know of Michael Brown as a criminal. He did not even know there had been a robbery at a store. All he had to go off was Michael Brown was young, male, and black. Good enough to put him in the "THUG" category though I guess.
There is some serious transparent "BUTT HURT" in this post.
We will be seeing your story and reading your obituary soon enough.
By all means...please go show The Police "who's boss."
f*** da police wrote:
Justice Served wrote:A strong arm THUG attacked the po-po and was a recipient of .40cal bullets to the dome.
Play stupid games and win stupid prizes.
This was the best justice...STREET JUSTICE.
Case closed.
I'll make sure to remember your definition of justice next time I see a cop, cause the only good cop is a dead cop, a**hole. It's important to identify the real thugs, you know, the ones who control a city through intimidation and covert processes. You guessed it, the f***ing pigs. Just because you identify any young male, especially one of a minority, as a "THUG" does not make them one. And before you go and say "Michael Brown strongarmed a store owner and stole stuff off him" or some crap like that, do a little fact checking. Fact checking everyone would do well to perform. Officer Wilson, by his own admission, did not know of Michael Brown as a criminal. He did not even know there had been a robbery at a store. All he had to go off was Michael Brown was young, male, and black. Good enough to put him in the "THUG" category though I guess.
White boy PLEASE!
Stop trying to make Black Folk look ignorant you poor white trash.
You are race baiting. Your constant cries of racism by conservatives reeks of Al Sharpton. Never did I say anything about blacks being apes. Just because you think I am conservative and some conservatives have used that term doesn't mean I have EVER said or TYPED that term. For this reason no one ties you seriously. You act like you never call people names. You call everyone who disagrees with you an idiot or a moron. That means you get it in return.I don't care what you think about gay people or what cops think about gay people. I have had sex with a lot of men in my 20s...and a lot of them were married. A lot of stereotypes regarding Jews, gays, blacks, asians etc...are true for a lot of people. That is how they become stereotypes. Hope you have some sweet wet dreams of this fat old men jacking off on my face...just like I will have them of the same guys doing it to your wife. :-) Night sexy!
Get used to it.. wrote:
Ok. So what if I am a racist...then what? I mean, you just can 'the let this one thing go. I know who I am...you don't. I can't control who has posted under my name in the past. You think i am kidding? Look at all the people who try to mimic your name throwing in extra "N"'s. So what if I were a racist...? What difference does it make? You would think you are better than me, which you are not. You would think your posts would have more merit (it wouldn't be possible for them to have less). You are such a fvcktard it is laughable. Your opinion means NOTHING! You b1tch about prejudice but you are prejudiced against conservatives. We know you are prejudiced against other groups as well. You are a liar, a phony, a fraud, an egomaniac and a blowhard. Next to nothing you say on this board about nutrition or the generalizations you make against other people are true. You are a pathetic silly little man.
Tyrannosaurus Rexing wrote:Wrong...YET again. I am quoting you racist idiots. THUG is your goddamned favorite word in the world referencing black people bar none. You basically said about ALL the people in ferguson who were nearby when the shooting occurred (Regardless of if they committed a crime)- "THEY ARE ALL THUGS AS FAR AS AS I AM CONCERNED." Your basic words. You also agreed with the comment that: "Black people stop making excuses, you are a bunch of thugs." Again, in reference to black people IN GENERAL, not just the ones who are criminals.
Please point to a SINLGE instance where you referred to a white person as a "thug" on this site? well? There have been plenty of opportunities, plenty of times where some "libtard" maybe brought up a story about a white person committing a horrific crime. Let's see where you slammed the "thug." OR.....did you ignore it, or maybe say or write instead: hey, that's nothing black thugs do that every day and twice on sunday? Prove me wrong.
interesting choice of words: "escaped my mouth".....hmm.....has it ever been typed by you? I wonder. In one second I found an example of a right wing ultra $hit, "dial it up" referring to the Ferguson protestors as "recreating planet of the APES." some posters call him out on it (BTW, *THAT* was their point you seemed to miss, that it was classless to make that "joke" ). What do you do? Agree that it's a racist statement? No of course not, you DEFEND "dial it up" and say his critics "have no point."
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=6144659&page=1So...so far at least, no not you (as far as we know) calling blacks apes, but you immediately jump in to defend someone who does.
Oh, suddenly you have standards of "class" ??? F'n hilarious. You've insulted me every possible way you could imagine. And you want examples of RACIST and CLASSLESS? Here you go:
You get into with Dennis Renyolds (who is, or purports to be, black, right?). And what do you say to him?
" you probably have 10 kids you never see to 10 different women." Yeah, and you're "NOT a racist" ?! (and I've seen you say racist things to other black posters on here) You f'n lying sack of manure. That's what you assume about black people, huh? well you know what, I assume you are an AIDS-ridden, wasting away gay whore, who goes to bath houses and lets 100 anonymous fat old gay men jack off on his face on a daily basis, and will suck any dick put in front of him, especially little boys. Did I get the queer stereotypes right? Is it wrong for me to assume that about you? You are gay, right? this is what you claim, and this is what my right wing cop friends told me about gays (cops HATE gays by the way), so don't blame me, this is just what I heard. And since you don't mind stereotypes, that's what I assume about you. What a sick person you are, to engage in such behavior. Sick, sick, sick.
Butt Hurt on PARADE wrote:
f*** da police wrote:I'll make sure to remember your definition of justice next time I see a cop, cause the only good cop is a dead cop, a**hole. It's important to identify the real thugs, you know, the ones who control a city through intimidation and covert processes. You guessed it, the f***ing pigs. Just because you identify any young male, especially one of a minority, as a "THUG" does not make them one. And before you go and say "Michael Brown strongarmed a store owner and stole stuff off him" or some crap like that, do a little fact checking. Fact checking everyone would do well to perform. Officer Wilson, by his own admission, did not know of Michael Brown as a criminal. He did not even know there had been a robbery at a store. All he had to go off was Michael Brown was young, male, and black. Good enough to put him in the "THUG" category though I guess.
There is some serious transparent "BUTT HURT" in this post.
We will be seeing your story and reading your obituary soon enough.
By all means...please go show The Police "who's boss."
Actually, as an American citizen, I am the boss of the police, or one of their bosses. They are public servants. or supposed to be in any case. I hope you realize that...
It's important that we hold our government accountable, that is the very nature of this country.
LOL at silly white boys wrote:
White boy PLEASE!
Stop trying to make Black Folk look ignorant you poor white trash.
I hope to God you are just another white racist poster trolling this. I doesn't matter if I'm white, black, Asian, or Hispanic. My points stand on their own merit, and do anything BUT make me look ignorant.
Actually, if I were to guess I'd say you're a white girl, starting your thread with LOL gives you away, sorry.
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